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Hey all you g33k's out there.

I wanna learn alot about TCP/IP

any one who know some good TCP/IP Stuff. ?

Thx for your time, an sry for my spelling.

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There's a neat skill though should learn: The ways of the google'fu !

Here's some small information for a general Idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP/IP

If you don't understand alot of that I suggest you first look some networking basics maybe books in the area of NETWORK+ or CCNA

There's alot of e-books out there and I believe some users here have been constantly linking to the website: http://freecomputerbooks.com/

I personally use the website: BOOKS24x7 but the only reason I get free resources from there is due to the fact I work at a unversity who has an agreement with them.

Thx for your time, an sry for my spelling

No problems, but be aware that by the time you typed that sentance you could of went back and fixed the spelling so you wouldn't have to appologize :P

Well I guess that depends on how fast you type and what's going on in your surroundings.

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If you want to learn tcp/ip. you can many options since it is practically discussed everywhere!

Some sources are google, eBooks, CCNA, MCSE books.

Just look and you will find.

Now, it would be reallllly impressive if you wanted to learn netBeui lol...but that's a think of the past. microsoft doesn't even isntall it automatically. you have to boot the windows cd and install it manually.

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If you want to learn tcp/ip. you can many options since it is practically discussed everywhere!

Some sources are google, eBooks, CCNA, MCSE books.

Just look and you will find.

Now, it would be reallllly impressive if you wanted to learn netBeui lol...but that's a think of the past. microsoft doesn't even isntall it automatically. you have to boot the windows cd and install it manually.

Hehe, yha, but there is only one problem. i use linux ;) an i love it.

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lol i use linux too and yeah it is great! but i'm always interested to learn about old architecture. TCP/IP while not exactly like netbeui(both are a suite of tranport protocols), netbeui came out first.

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MCSE books? *lulz* Come on, man. Pick up a copy of TCP/IP Illustrated.

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MCSE books? *lulz* Come on, man. Pick up a copy of TCP/IP Illustrated.

I second that. I own this bible of a book. It's cheaper and much more resourceful than what you'll find elsewhere in the printed book world.

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MCSE books? *lulz* Come on, man. Pick up a copy of TCP/IP Illustrated.

I second that. I own this bible of a book. It's cheaper and much more resourceful than what you'll find elsewhere in the printed book world.

My tip is that I would memorize the 7 layers of OSI and the 5 layers of the TCP/IP

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The redbook?

you mean the NSA Trusted Networks??

No, "Redbook"... as in "technical publications by IBM". They're called "red" because of the color of the cover.

Did you click on the link? It should keep you busy for a while.

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lol i use linux too and yeah it is great! but i'm always interested to learn about old architecture. TCP/IP while not exactly like netbeui(both are a suite of tranport protocols), netbeui came out first.

NetBIOS came before TCP/IP? In what universe? :roll:

TCP/IP dates back to the 70's.. ;)

@OP: Read Beej's guide, http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/

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When ever I learn a new technology I like to start off with a simple primer type book. Follow up with a lot of research on google and get a definitive guide on the subject as well.

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i can haz this book its not bad got it a while ago.

Was it a good book to learn from?

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i can haz this book its not bad got it a while ago.

Was it a good book to learn from?

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Dummies-Fifth-Ca...3319&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-...3626&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-IP-Bible-Rod-Scr...3348&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Illustrated-Prot...3392&sr=8-1

I would look on ebay though. Some of them are quite pricey.

Also. once you start to learn the basics it may be a good idea to use some basic tools to look under the hood of things:

- hping3

- nmap

- any application that makes use of tcp/ip

- wireshark

Not really for scanning boxes, but actually learn how each works and why.

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i can haz this book its not bad got it a while ago.

Was it a good book to learn from?

yeah it was a decent book. its not really hard to find any book that will teach you something. the trick is, to get a book thats just beyone your level of understanding, at first some things might not make sense but as you start to learn different things it will all start to come together and make sense. dont get super advance reading matirial, chances are youll end up reading a few pages then putting it on the shelf to collect dust. thats what happend to me a long time ago when i first bought the shell coders handbook. but after about a year i picked it back up and alot of the shit made more sense and i could actually read and understand most of the stuff. but shit you can always buy some used books cheap. i think i got this one at comp usa a long time ago for 25 cents. it was supposed to be taken off the shelf and they let me buy it anyways. they do this alot with books that dont sell and get old, this one was normally 69 dollars.

Thx for the good advise. is realy use full

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As good as TCP/IP Illustrated is the TCP/IP Guide for someone reading for the first time about the protocol, or using it as an advanced reference. It is free online, but you would probably want a copy from Amazon or something (check used for deals).

http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Guide-Comprehens...s/dp/159327047X

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MCSE books? *lulz* Come on, man. Pick up a copy of TCP/IP Illustrated.

I second that. I own this bible of a book. It's cheaper and much more resourceful than what you'll find elsewhere in the printed book world.

I third this.. I think you want just the first volume though. Its very hands on with lots of examples you can see with tcpdump. I would also recommend The TCP/IP Guide from No starch press as a reference. And lastly a wireshark book, i thought Wireshark & Ethereal Network Protocol Analyzer Toolkit by Jay Beale was ok.. I also have Practical Packet Analysis: Using Wireshark to Solve Real-World Network Problems by Chris Sanders which i haven't cracked open yet. It seems pretty thin though.

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I see a ton of different ideas floating around. What exactly are you trying to learn about TCP/IP? For example I wanna know more about subnetting; about how the logical TCP/IP model works, the layer structure and how it aligns with the OSI model; about TCP/IP packet data breakdown, etc... I have an entire powerpoint instruction I made years ago explaining basics. I think I still have it on my webserver I will have to see. I'll drop you the link in a pm if you want it.

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I see a ton of different ideas floating around. What exactly are you trying to learn about TCP/IP? For example I wanna know more about subnetting; about how the logical TCP/IP model works, the layer structure and how it aligns with the OSI model; about TCP/IP packet data breakdown, etc... I have an entire powerpoint instruction I made years ago explaining basics. I think I still have it on my webserver I will have to see. I'll drop you the link in a pm if you want it.

ok. i like that.

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I'll drop you the link in a pm if you want it.

any chance you could ping that to me too? Thanks in advance.

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