The_STDstroyer

some questions about a laptop

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Ok. So heres my story.

2 years ago i recieved an ibm thinkpad laptop from my father.

it was his old work laptop and he passed it on to me.

i also got a few copies of various linux distributions.

i wanted to install linux as my operating system.

and being an idiot 14 year old novice, i deleted windows entirely.

now!

heres where hours of frustration come in.

i have tried installing all of my copies of linux on my laptop.

and none of them work.

the laptop boots up.

then it goes into a strange form of bios with very limited settings.

infact the only thing you can set is the time and date.

and when i try to load any operation system it says, "error reading operating system"

at first i gave up. i didnt know what to do.

i was afraid to ask my dad because i ruined my new laptop.

then i got a copy of red hat 9.

and it partially installed.

then when it asked for the final disk it didnt recognize it.

so now i have a laptop, with an incomplete version of linux on it.

and no way to get anything on it.

i got ubuntu and kubuntu on cds and im trying to get them to install and its not working.

i even got a copy of solaris 7 just to see if it was my disks and it wouldnt even recognize that.

it knows its an operating system, it just doesnt load.

can anyone shed any light on why this is happening and what i can do to fix it?

thanks all of you.

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will a live cd boot up ok with X and everything?

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So will it boot the installation disc, or are you saying that the error is what you get when you try and do that.

Also, you must configure your BIOS to boot from a CD.

If you are new to GNU/Linux, Ubuntu is a good place to start for beginners.

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If you can't get linux working on a thinkpad you're doing it wrong. Thinkpads are the most linux friendly laptops I've ever used and most users of them will agree. Redhat 9 should not be used as it hasn't been supported in years and it's really far behind RHEL and Fedora.

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ok.

i have ubuntu.

i cant even get into bios.

all i can do is set the time and date and do a check of all the hardware on the machine.

and sometimes, it shows me this weird screen i cant do anything on. it looks like this

O |

Off > On

and i have to restart the machine.

other times it just says error reading operating system.

when it boots up, it doesnt say anything about entering bios on the splash screen.

im at a loss.

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So will it boot the installation disc, or are you saying that the error is what you get when you try and do that.

Also, you must configure your BIOS to boot from a CD.

If you are new to GNU/Linux, Ubuntu is a good place to start for beginners.

it has an error with a little crossed out hand when i try to boot from a disk.

then i get stuck at that weird screen.

i feel retarded.

it seems so easy.

but im lost.

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your best bet is a can opener version of knoppix released by o'reilly associates with the book "Knoppix Hacks." While it's essentially just v 3.9 or something around there, it was designed to be shoved into broken pieces of sh*t and make them work. Also, as strange as this sounds, you might consider trying an old version of windows, installing it, then running the ubuntu disc after the install process.

Sometimes OEM computers have trouble with an alt operating system taking hold and you need a fat32 or ntfs partition to install over. Don't worry, a good linux or beastie install over that will wash the bad taste out of your mouth.

- alienb

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The_STDstroyer, I really really hate the way you format your posts.

Ok. So heres my story.

2 years ago i recieved an ibm thinkpad laptop from my father.

it was his old work laptop and he passed it on to me.

i also got a few copies of various linux distributions.

i wanted to install linux as my operating system.

and being an idiot 14 year old novice, i deleted windows entirely.

now!

heres where hours of frustration come in.

i have tried installing all of my copies of linux on my laptop.

and none of them work.

the laptop boots up.

then it goes into a strange form of bios with very limited settings.

infact the only thing you can set is the time and date.

and when i try to load any operation system it says, "error reading operating system"

at first i gave up. i didnt know what to do.

i was afraid to ask my dad because i ruined my new laptop.

then i got a copy of red hat 9.

and it partially installed.

then when it asked for the final disk it didnt recognize it.

so now i have a laptop, with an incomplete version of linux on it.

and no way to get anything on it.

i got ubuntu and kubuntu on cds and im trying to get them to install and its not working.

i even got a copy of solaris 7 just to see if it was my disks and it wouldnt even recognize that.

it knows its an operating system, it just doesnt load.

can anyone shed any light on why this is happening and what i can do to fix it?

thanks all of you.

That was a pain to read, the way you formatted... it looks like a big mess.

Anyway, have you ever installed a linux distrubtion successfully (on any machine)

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yes i have.

i installed ubuntu on a laptop at my friends and debian on another.

i am using the same copy of ubuntu to put on my laptop and its simply not working

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What model of Thinkpad do you have?

You shouldn't have any trouble getting a Thinkpad to agree with Linux...like livinded said, Thinkpads are some of the best laptops to get as far as Linux support goes (I currently use a Thinkpad T40, and used a 600X before that). Is your BIOS configured to boot from CD?

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i dont know the model.

it was given to me by my father.

and i dont think so. all i know is that i cant even access bios to make it boot from a cd.

ill take pictures of what happens and post them so someone can give me advice.

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i dont know the model.

it was given to me by my father.

and i dont think so. all i know is that i cant even access bios to make it boot from a cd.

ill take pictures of what happens and post them so someone can give me advice.

You could try looking. Usually it's plainly visible, somewhere on the laptop. If nothing else, it should be part of the information on the bottom of the unit. On both the T40 and 600X I currently have, it's below the screen.

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all i know is that i cant even access bios to make it boot from a cd.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

The information below can be used to access the BIOS from all the major suppliers of BIOS chips and the Computer Manufacturers that use them.

During the initial boot of a computer the BIOS supplier will be displayed. If OEM logo splash screen is displayed, press ESC key to see the boot up information. Press the Pause/Break key if text displays too fast.

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I have one box that I slapped together with a mashup of OEM parts (compaq camaro motherboard, yuck), and I have trouble getting most newer linux distros to install on it. I've got two simple tips that worked for me...

1 - Stick to distros using Kernel 2.4 or older.

2 - Damn Small Linux 3.2 (again, kernel 2.4) seems very stupid hardware friendly for the basics.

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I.

Talk.

Like.

Christopher Walken or.

William Shatner.

Which is it?

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all i know is that i cant even access bios to make it boot from a cd.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

The information below can be used to access the BIOS from all the major suppliers of BIOS chips and the Computer Manufacturers that use them.

During the initial boot of a computer the BIOS supplier will be displayed. If OEM logo splash screen is displayed, press ESC key to see the boot up information. Press the Pause/Break key if text displays too fast.

ok. im not stupid. i know how to access bios. it just seems like theres no bios to access. i have gotten to this weird error screen with a flying duck for a cursor. its a 600e with no partitions on it whatsoever.

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oh and on that site it says this:

IBM ThinkpadĀ® (newer) = Windows: Programs-Thinkpad CFG.

How am i supposed to access bios now without windows? This seems like its more trouble than its worth.

and thank you for poking fun at my dramatic way of speaking.

yes.

this.

is.

the final frontier.

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Google seems to suggest holding down the F1 key while booting the laptop will give you BIOS...

And, the 600e is the slower version of the 600X, so it is most definitely Linux-compatible, and does not require Windows for /anything/.

Also, the "flying duck" screen is typical of older IBM error screens. You can actually look these screens up in your laptop's manual, and get a description for why you get them. And, before you remind us that your laptop was given to you by your dad, and you don't have the manual:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss...cid=LWIK-3YEQCF

IBM maintains some of the best support documentation available for PCs...they still have the docs for their original 1981 IBM PC 5150.

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gee thanks. i think i figured out the problem. my cmos battery is dead. apparently the 600e sucks for batteries. i need to replace it. it keeps giving me errors 161 and 163 which are battery failure and set time and date. which means the memory prolly doesnt work. therefore if i change it i might reduce the problems im having.

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I would clear the CMOS, update the BIOS, and run some sort of disk checking utility off a live disk or an XP disk (recovery console chkdsk /r)

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