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10-10-XXX numbers and VoIP

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I've tried calling 10-10-XXX numbers over VoIP providers, and I haven't had any success. Is there a reason why 10-10-XXX numbers don't work over VoIP? Do they only work with POTS lines, or is there a way to call those numbers using VoIP? I'm curious to know, it's something I haven't put time into researching because I haven't had that time for a while now.

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I can tell you for 100% certainty that you can use 10-10-288 (10-10-ATT) to dial and complete numbers on WOW!... But if you complete them, you will get blocked off of it after a time, as they'll look to bill and won't have an account on file for the number. Heh.

 

Otherwise, it's largely a mixed bag; usually the larger players (AT&T, Sprint, MCI) won't be restricted as much, but that's not 100%. Even mid-tier (Global Crossing, etc.) are usually restricted.

 

But I think because your VoIP providers are considered telecom, they're required by some older law / governance to have Feature Group D (10-10XXX) support... I could be wrong, but I believe that's why it's still possible.

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I've only seen one VoIP service have 101-xxxx (FGD) work properly, and that's because it is a landline carrier who gives me dialtone off a DMS-10 by SIP.  Really more of a landline-replacement service that they happened to be willing to hook me up with, than a "VoIP" service.

 

JCSwishMan33 - I'm not familiar with this carrier, who are they?  Sounds pretty interesting to me ...

 

Telcos only have to provide LD carrier choice if they're a regulated telco.  Most VoIP services work hard to avoid regulation, as does any good telco - it's expensive to comply with rules!  And there are a lot of them.  My ex-employer was a 100% real CLEC, and they had to sign a stack of forms about six inches thick to get that status.  It was an eight person company, with a full-time lawyer on staff.  This is normal.

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8 hours ago, chronomex said:

I've only seen one VoIP service have 101-xxxx (FGD) work properly, and that's because it is a landline carrier who gives me dialtone off a DMS-10 by SIP.  Really more of a landline-replacement service that they happened to be willing to hook me up with, than a "VoIP" service.

 

Mind if I ask who this provider is and if they're willing to sell service like that? Or did they do you a favor and provide you with a special sevice?

 

I'm on a landline VOIP provider and wish I could do 101-xxxx FGD testing. Only place that I can do a limited amount of that is at work on an old fashioned DMS-100 Centrex.

 

 

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Most VoIP services work hard to avoid regulation, as does any good telco - it's expensive to comply with rules!


Out of curiosity, don't they have to have FGD trunks anyway for toll-free origination? Assuming they don't send that to someone else.

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On 7/26/2017 at 5:21 PM, Ru1722 said:

I've tried calling 10-10-XXX numbers over VoIP providers, and I haven't had any success. Is there a reason why 10-10-XXX numbers don't work over VoIP? Do they only work with POTS lines, or is there a way to call those numbers using VoIP? I'm curious to know, it's something I haven't put time into researching because I haven't had that time for a while now.

 

Argh!  To test I will need to add a special regex rule to my "tandem's" dialplan to catch that...

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Flowroute sends back 404.

 

SIP/2.0 404 Invalid E.164 dialing format - support@flowroute.com
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.12.30.1:5060;branch=z9hG4bK625135067
From: "Main Desk [10.12.0.107]" <sip:14156169542@10.12.30.1>;tag=2069067084
To: <sip:10102884156169542@sip.flowroute.com>;tag=870a5b262384e4f9f82f59836d699db5.ccd2
Call-ID: 59047554@10.12.30.1
CSeq: 3 INVITE
Content-Length: 0

 

Comcast sends me back a "calls to that number are not permitted"

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On 7/28/2017 at 10:04 PM, dmine45 said:

 

Mind if I ask who this provider is and if they're willing to sell service like that? Or did they do you a favor and provide you with a special sevice?

 

I'm on a landline VOIP provider and wish I could do 101-xxxx FGD testing. Only place that I can do a limited amount of that is at work on an old fashioned DMS-100 Centrex.

 

 

 

I'm using Vonage, and honestly I'm not sure. 

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On 7/30/2017 at 4:59 AM, gewt said:

Flowroute sends back 404.

 

SIP/2.0 404 Invalid E.164 dialing format - support@flowroute.com
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.12.30.1:5060;branch=z9hG4bK625135067
From: "Main Desk [10.12.0.107]" <sip:14156169542@10.12.30.1>;tag=2069067084
To: <sip:10102884156169542@sip.flowroute.com>;tag=870a5b262384e4f9f82f59836d699db5.ccd2
Call-ID: 59047554@10.12.30.1
CSeq: 3 INVITE
Content-Length: 0

 

Comcast sends me back a "calls to that number are not permitted"

 

 

You forgot to add 1 in between 101-0288 and the number you dialed.

If it goes through and supervises, you might as well pay ^$10 for a single minute casual dial call.

Best to use 101-0321.

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