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spoofcard.com and trapcall.com are both run by lucky225, he abuses his admin access by listening to your recorded calls and playing them on hacker teleconferences, not to mention giving logs of your calls to the police and federal agents, don't give your money to this piece of shit!

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Unless something has changed dramatically, lucky225 does not run spoofcard. And that statement is from someone who is not on lucky225's list of friends. There is a slight chance that he has gotten a job there or something, i don't know, but he doesn't run it for sure. I don't know about trapcall.

And if anyone is dropping docs from these companies like that, no matter who it is, that is some fucked up shit to do. I mean, if it was a court ordered supeona, then yes, I understand that they have to cooperate. But if anyone is getting information and giving it up willingly, then I don't care who it is, that is not cool and I would boycott the service.

Before anyone goes boycotting anything here, what evidence do you have that any docs or logs were dropped and proof that it came from one of these services?

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unlucky : unless you provide some solid evidence I call you a liar

OSP subforum is not for this kind of abuse, I vote for trashing this topic

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omghax! pheer lucky's business endeavors!

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Then he has admin access to it, either way he was playing recordings from it on the socal bridge.

Oh no, i'm being called a liar by a pollock. Get your facts straight before you post.

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So, unlucky... Who are you, exactly?

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So, unlucky... Who are you, exactly?

One unlucky, disgruntled SOB :P

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Get your facts straight before you post.

Shouldn't someone be telling you that, since lucky doesn't run spoofcard or trapcall?

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Then he has admin access to it, either way he was playing recordings from it on the socal bridge.

Oh no, i'm being called a liar by a pollock. Get your facts straight before you post.

Well, your initial post was fine albeit without evidence. I gave you a chance to provide evidence since I believe it is very possibly true with anything that lucky225 is involved with. This post, however, with its racial slurs and lack of anything useful got you banned as a troll. You had your chance to make your case and you failed. Stop being butthurt and do somethign about it. Provide evidence and I will back you up.

To everyone else: If you are in doubt, then don't use the services, just like anything else. Don't support a company that drops docs or has such poor security policies that it lets its employees drop your docs. You have power as consumers. I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE! So you have to make your own decisions here. I am leaving the thread open to see if anyone provides evidence.

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Then he has admin access to it, either way he was playing recordings from it on the socal bridge.

Oh no, i'm being called a liar by a pollock. Get your facts straight before you post.

Well, your initial post was fine albeit without evidence. I gave you a chance to provide evidence since I believe it is very possibly true with anything that lucky225 is involved with. This post, however, with its racial slurs and lack of anything useful got you banned as a troll. You had your chance to make your case and you failed. Stop being butthurt and do somethign about it. Provide evidence and I will back you up.

To everyone else: If you are in doubt, then don't use the services, just like anything else. Don't support a company that drops docs or has such poor security policies that it lets its employees drop your docs. You have power as consumers. I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE! So you have to make your own decisions here. I am leaving the thread open to see if anyone provides evidence.

EDIT: Since there is no proof, and the username "unlucky" is banned and can not provide any proof, there is no reason why this thread should still remain open. Lucky is not a member on here, therefore involvement of him should be of no concern to the board.

Just my two cents.

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Weird thread.

I've decided to post because I figured unlucky is a tard who is claiming Lucky works for either of the 2 companies. At the least I figured unlucky was at least making this part up, however after seeing the last post saying Lucky DOES work for Trapcall (a post which I now cannot find-weird), I decided to verfiy this one way or the other myself so I emailed support and asked them.

Here's a copy of their email below :

From: "Trapcall Support" <Support@Trapcall.com>

To: <EMAIL DELETED BY ME FOR PRIVACY REASONS>

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:47 AM

Subject: Teltech Systems Support Ticket #190940

Dear John,

We have a Lucky in support, and no he does not violate the

privacy policies.

(http://www.trapcall.com/privacy)

Sharing And/Or Disclosing Information

Information about our customers is an important part of our

business. We share customer information only as described

below.

Trapcall.com may disclose customers personal information

in the following situations:

* We may respond to subpoenas, court orders, or other

legal requirements, or seek to establish or exercise our

legal rights or defend against legal claims.

* We believe it is necessary to disclose such

information in order to investigate, prevent, or take action

regarding illegal activities, suspected fraud, situations

involving potential threats to physical safety of any

person, or violations of Trapcall.com's Terms of Service.

Other than as set out above, you will receive notice when

information about you might go to third parties, and you

will have an opportunity to choose not to share the

information. Trapcall.com also reserves the right to display

targeted advertisements based on personal information.

If Lucky had violated this policy he would not be working

here.

--

Teltech Support

www.TeltechCorp.com

___________________________________

I was surprised to see this as a reply from them because I just assumed Lucky didn't even work for either of them. Guess I was wrong. Whatever. I'm still skeptical Lucky has dropped docs anyway since I've seen no proof of it.

Taking into consideration unlucky said "he owns Trapcall" but Trapcall just said he works in support, this makes unlucky's claim appear even more bogus unless the explanation is unlucky has simply "assumed" Lucky owned it by accident because he dropped docs.

unlucky should've considered this before posting that : it doesn't mean he "owns" either company, perhaps he hacked it so he was able to obtain admin access, it wouldn't be the first case of it at a company - he also should keep this in mind should he find himself in a similar boat in the future.

One thing though, just because Trapcall has said he doesn't violate any policy doesn't mean he hasn't-perhaps they simply haven't caught him at it.

Anyone considering using Trapcall may want to consider this point.

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To: <EMAIL DELETED BY ME FOR PRIVACY REASONS>

Made me laugh, and I don't know why.

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EDIT: Since there is no proof, and the username "unlucky" is banned and can not provide any proof, there is no reason why this thread should still remain open. Lucky is not a member on here, therefore involvement of him should be of no concern to the board.

Just my two cents.

The thread should remain open for anyone else to provide proof. unlucky was not banned for the original post, he was banned for racial slurs and trolling in general. His original post was without evidence, but not necessarily without merit. I think we are providing a service here letting people know that it is questionable and to consider this when using the service. Personally, I won't do business with a company that he works for or is affiliated with. Some people bring an audience to a site or company like spokespeople and other people push clients away.

Based on his history of dropping docs (including mine), I do not put this past him. A zebra can't change its stripes. I still want proof or evidence. Was anyone else on this conf call? no one recorded it?

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We have a Lucky in support, and no he does not violate the

privacy policies.

in the corporate world people are known by there real names, or perhaps a nickname - them verifying that they have "A lucky" in support does not verify the identity of Lucky225

it may or may not be him... perhaps someone could ask lucky225 himself if he works for teltech (trapcall/spoofcard) if anyone has any contact info for him...

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We have a Lucky in support, and no he does not violate the

privacy policies.

in the corporate world people are known by there real names, or perhaps a nickname - them verifying that they have "A lucky" in support does not verify the identity of Lucky225

it may or may not be him... perhaps someone could ask lucky225 himself if he works for teltech (trapcall/spoofcard) if anyone has any contact info for him...

It IS him. I'd forgotten to paste in a copy of the email I sent them asking what I did, so here it is :

From: . To: support@trapcall.com

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 7:29 PM

Subject: Question

Do you have someone in support working for you by the name of "lucky225" (or jered if he changed it) ? Thank you ahead of time for a prompt reply,

-John

__________

Notice I was very specific in my question to them.

StankDawg -

He dropped docs on you? I know your experience with him isn't the topic per se, but I would be interested in hearing about it, if you don't mind.

Just curious.

Since he dropped docs on you Stank, this dude sounds like a RAT (I put that in caps since he's a BIG rat).

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StankDawg -

He dropped docs on you? I know your experience with him isn't the topic per se, but I would be interested in hearing about it, if you don't mind.

Just curious.

I'd rather not go back into unnecessary drama. The short version is that we were friends and he turned on me and gave out my personal phone numbers (including my personal/work cell) on a conf and I had people calling me at all hours of the night harassing me. He denies it, but I caught him in the act so it is 100% true.

back on topic... These companies are like any other, just be sure of who you are doing business with. If you don't support a company for any morals, religious, trust, or any reason, then find another company. It is that easy. There are others that offer this service aren't there? I think this is a good time and place for someone to post some alternatives.

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StankDawg -

He dropped docs on you? I know your experience with him isn't the topic per se, but I would be interested in hearing about it, if you don't mind.

Just curious.

I'd rather not go back into unnecessary drama. The short version is that we were friends and he turned on me and gave out my personal phone numbers (including my personal/work cell) on a conf and I had people calling me at all hours of the night harassing me. He denies it, but I caught him in the act so it is 100% true.

back on topic... These companies are like any other, just be sure of who you are doing business with. If you don't support a company for any morals, religious, trust, or any reason, then find another company. It is that easy. There are others that offer this service aren't there? I think this is a good time and place for someone to post some alternatives.

If anyone would like to receive a pin on my private asterisk box with settings similar to them, let me know. I will give away free minutes. All information ran across the box is encrypted and secured.

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I am really trying to not make things worse but this is just not fair...

This thread is completely ridiciolus (strom plz2 spell check for me firefox cant fix it) ... I personally chose not to post on these forums anymore because of I didn't want to be part or causing any drama for anybody. As far as I understand I was never banned from these forums, but I know some people that are more frequent contributors than myself knew that I was more with lucky's side of things being as how I've known him for quite some time and know him locally although that does not mean I always agreed with lucky's actions or viewpoints.

I decided to avoid any further drama for any party, to just split ways as I know it would of course not be a big deal to anybody in this community. I did try to post once in awhile, but after focusing on growing up and living on your own you kind of face different responsibilities and see life in the different way you did at your parents house.

The reason why I am posting again is because this thread is up that contains basically docs of someone's personal life and information which in my opinion should be completely against rules which I thought were really important to keep a good board up and running. I find it completely unfair to lucky225 to keep this up simply because somebody has an issue in the past with him. It's not even just bad for lucky225, it's even bad for the company who's not even doing anything and hasn't have had the pleasure of knowing tron to be pwned by him.

He posted docs in the past? All I personally ever recall was information that was completely public record that anybody could find and that person even knew it was public. I may be completely wrong about this, maybe there were other information going around behind my ears that I never knew about, I really don't know. But to be honest, that was around five years ago... Everybody went their separate ways since then and left each other alone. The relationship didn't work out, it ended ugly, that's it...people move on from that.

Lucky225 if anything has been the most respectful to the DDP since those times. He's banned, he knows that, he accepts that. He's never made an account to post on here or trying to be sneaky. He respects the rules because breaking the rules on these very forums is what started all of that in the first place. There have been many other people on these forums who have been banned who somehow always end up posting or creating an account...just like the original poster who started these whole thread....TRON. This person yet again continues to create drama for the internet and telephone community. Every time i hear and talk to tron on confs, i try to get along with this guy and i personally think somewhere in the tron head of his, he's some decent normal guy...but no im fucking wrong all the time..hes fucking tron! (not to be confused with the new movie TRON 2.0 coming out in the summer, youtube for trailer)

Lucky225 posted spam on these boards five years ago or so... and today he loses his job because of the rumors and security threat of what tron started. Thank you Binary Revolution Forums for effecting someone's career. We all have our ideas of who lucky really is, but to be honest he's just a married man trying to make a living and pay rent. And because of people like tron, and honestly partly the people that decided to keep this thread up..it has effected him in his real life. Did lucky225 ever cause anyone to lose their job? Did he really fuck up that bad to be paying the price now?

My point is Lucky225 has made mistakes and he can be goofy as we all know from dougtv (pimp the past) and default radio (RIP!)...that was forever ago... now he's just a goofy with no job. I am posting because nobody has come up to defend lucky and he can't speak for himself because he wont disrespect his ban. He's been and being respectful...can you people please do the same?

/end of rant. I'm not sure if this post is violation of any terms and if it is I do apologize and accept any type of ban. I am not trying to cause trouble I am just trying to defend a friend and not attack anybody. Thank you.

Edit: As StankDawg pointed out, if you ph33r find something else or do it yourself!

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I am really trying to not make things worse but this is just not fair...

This thread is completely ridiciolus (strom plz2 spell check for me firefox cant fix it) ... I personally chose not to post on these forums anymore because of I didn't want to be part or causing any drama for anybody. As far as I understand I was never banned from these forums, but I know some people that are more frequent contributors than myself knew that I was more with lucky's side of things being as how I've known him for quite some time and know him locally although that does not mean I always agreed with lucky's actions or viewpoints.

I decided to avoid any further drama for any party, to just split ways as I know it would of course not be a big deal to anybody in this community. I did try to post once in awhile, but after focusing on growing up and living on your own you kind of face different responsibilities and see life in the different way you did at your parents house.

The reason why I am posting again is because this thread is up that contains basically docs of someone's personal life and information which in my opinion should be completely against rules which I thought were really important to keep a good board up and running. I find it completely unfair to lucky225 to keep this up simply because somebody has an issue in the past with him. It's not even just bad for lucky225, it's even bad for the company who's not even doing anything and hasn't have had the pleasure of knowing tron to be pwned by him.

He posted docs in the past? All I personally ever recall was information that was completely public record that anybody could find and that person even knew it was public. I may be completely wrong about this, maybe there were other information going around behind my ears that I never knew about, I really don't know. But to be honest, that was around five years ago... Everybody went their separate ways since then and left each other alone. The relationship didn't work out, it ended ugly, that's it...people move on from that.

Lucky225 if anything has been the most respectful to the DDP since those times. He's banned, he knows that, he accepts that. He's never made an account to post on here or trying to be sneaky. He respects the rules because breaking the rules on these very forums is what started all of that in the first place. There have been many other people on these forums who have been banned who somehow always end up posting or creating an account...just like the original poster who started these whole thread....TRON. This person yet again continues to create drama for the internet and telephone community. Every time i hear and talk to tron on confs, i try to get along with this guy and i personally think somewhere in the tron head of his, he's some decent normal guy...but no im fucking wrong all the time..hes fucking tron! (not to be confused with the new movie TRON 2.0 coming out in the summer, youtube for trailer)

Lucky225 posted spam on these boards five years ago or so... and today he loses his job because of the rumors and security threat of what tron started. Thank you Binary Revolution Forums for effecting someone's career. We all have our ideas of who lucky really is, but to be honest he's just a married man trying to make a living and pay rent. And because of people like tron, and honestly partly the people that decided to keep this thread up..it has effected him in his real life. Did lucky225 ever cause anyone to lose their job? Did he really fuck up that bad to be paying the price now?

My point is Lucky225 has made mistakes and he can be goofy as we all know from dougtv (pimp the past) and default radio (RIP!)...that was forever ago... now he's just a goofy with no job. I am posting because nobody has come up to defend lucky and he can't speak for himself because he wont disrespect his ban. He's been and being respectful...can you people please do the same?

/end of rant. I'm not sure if this post is violation of any terms and if it is I do apologize and accept any type of ban. I am not trying to cause trouble I am just trying to defend a friend and not attack anybody. Thank you.

Edit: As StankDawg pointed out, if you ph33r find something else or do it yourself!

The point was that lucky has a habit of posting docs on public forums, whether the info is public or not is irrelivent, he has a habit of screwing people and this is just karma coming back at him.

I have it on good authority from someone close to you and lucky that he was doing things he shouldn't have on that bridge with info he shouldn't have made public that probably violated his job's and the service's TOS.

I remember when tron got out of prison and was calling into confs, lucky pulled the number of the hotel tron was calling from and made it public on the conf, as well as calling and harassing him at the hotel and ordering pizza's to his room.

I checked and the movie comes out in december, not summer :)

Lucky fucked up big time and deserved to lose his job.

Tell lucky you reap what you sew.

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I think one thing we can all agree on is that tron is an epic troll.

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I am not bringing up the past. What happened, happened and its over. But since I was on the receiving end of it (I feel about lucky how you feel about TRON, maybe that will make you see my view) I simply pointed out that I don't trust him. That is no different than what you just posted about TRON. Will you champion him for getting fired for his past actions as well? I answered the question short and to the point and tried not to get into it and I still won't except to say that my personal/work cell was never "public information" and you know that but still won't accept it. I can appreciate standing up for your friend, but I tend not to beleive him any more than you believe tron based on my experience.

Binary Revolution did not get lucky fired. Lucky got lucky fired. You may not believe this, but i am genuinely not happy about if it is even true, I never know what the truth is with any of you guys and that is part of the point. Peoples actions have repercussions and sometimes those repercussions have lasting effects to your reputation. I have the same thing. People hate me for actions that I have made in the past. I never dropped anyones docs. that being said, I do not think that spoofcard would have the right to terminate anyone based on heresay. This is why I was trying to see if there was any evidence behind the accusation (because I also know TRON and his history of douchbaggery). Since no one has provided any evidence thus far, then I do not think it is fair for lucky to lose his job over a potentially false allegation. There you go spoofcard, if you are reading this you just heard a guy who doesn't trust lucky tell you that you have no right to fire him. You have no idea (or do you?) that lucky did anything wrong or deserves to be fired. Maybe watch him closely or something, monitor him, but fire him? Bad form.

So to try once again to divert this off of the past, I will once again post requesting alternative companies in case anyone else is interested in such a service. By all means, spoofcard might be a fine company and I am not condemning them at all. I only say that options are always good and as consumers, having choices is always better so let's discuss choices.

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I will say that I will never be a customer of Telespoof after this. Firing lucky over no real evidence is bullshit. The friends I have recommended the service to will be informed about this so that they can find someone else as well.

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If private information (mobile number, etc) was released by lucky225 then I had no idea. I know of 'others' that were part of that and I strongly disagree with those actions in the past and made sure I was never part of anything even though they are still my friends... I really don't think lucky was a part of that if you really knew what lucky's limits were, however I can be completely mistaken since I really didn't know what was going down. But even if lucky was part of that, it was still years ago and by going our separate ways, lucky is still getting drama not only in the scene but now his personal life...

You know how tron is just as much as any of us (good times)... he will always be tron. Lucky225 posted spam and got flamed for being a dummy and five years later, lucky is minding his own business and tron is still trying to get into his life. It isn't lucky's fault that any of this is presently happening. He doesn't voice his opinion on the radio anymore, he's not the media whore he use to be..hell I consider lucky225 is dead just as much as many others as far as I know. He doesn't participate in any of this anymore and he's still the victim in all of this no matter how you look at it. If what lucky did then is true, two wrongs obviously do not make a right in this case.

Anyways there's no point I'm sure to continue talking about this since we have all voiced our opinions about this situation. I respect everyone for doing their own investigating cause that's what a phreak does just as much as I respect StankDawg's opinion because I was never in his position nor really do what was going down other than the little I've heard from others.

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