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do you guys know any distros that have like a text/fluxbox/jvm install>? i need to install on a pIII mobile 1ghz with 256mb ram which cannont run xfce, has 40gb hd so would like a regularish distro. i would rather stay away from the obvious fluxbuntu as i would rather have debian than ubuntu but the debian disk is only xfce/kde/gnome, so is the gentoo disk i have. and the laptop wouldnt run solaris text console. any suggestions welcome, am running "damn small linux" atm but would like more customization.

edit: also it doesnot have a floppy drive otherwise i was gonna l33t use tomsrbt Edited by dinscurge

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Debian does indeed have a text-only install -- look for their "netinst" ISO image. This image boots into a minimal text install environment, and pulls all needed files from your Internet connection.

As far as other distros with text-only installs, Arch Linux and Slackware both use text mode as the default (only?) installation method. Arch Linux is 686 optimized, and since you have a Pentium III, it'd work fine for that.

XFCE and/or Fluxbox will run fine with hardware of that spec. For Linux stuff, those specs aren't really all that low.

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Get the gentoo 2008 minimal cd, which will drop you into a text-only install,
and then you will have to emerge fluxbox.

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[quote name='systems_glitch' post='333363' date='Mar 20 2009, 10:06 AM']Debian does indeed have a text-only install -- look for their "netinst" ISO image. This image boots into a minimal text install environment, and pulls all needed files from your Internet connection.

As far as other distros with text-only installs, Arch Linux and Slackware both use text mode as the default (only?) installation method. Arch Linux is 686 optimized, and since you have a Pentium III, it'd work fine for that.

XFCE and/or Fluxbox will run fine with hardware of that spec. For Linux stuff, those specs aren't really all that low.[/quote]

I've never tried a text-only install, but the netinst iso image provides the graphical installer

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[quote name='Aghaster' post='333365' date='Mar 20 2009, 10:25 AM']I've never tried a text-only install, but the netinst iso image provides the graphical installer[/quote]
You're right -- I meant the netinst-businesscard image, which is 35 MB. There's also an ultra-minimal ISO, available from the netboot directory in the apt tree -- this one is only 8 MB,and pulls even additional kernel modules from the Internet.

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[quote name='systems_glitch' post='333363' date='Mar 20 2009, 09:06 AM']As far as other distros with text-only installs, Arch Linux and Slackware both use text mode as the default (only?) installation method.[/quote]

Slackware only has a curses-based (text-mode) installation indeed. There's also a minimal USB installer that lets you select alternative installation media, like *grabs Slackbook* a DVD, CD-roms, an FTP server, an NFS server, et cetera. It's all pretty straightforward.

Fluxbox is actually included.

For a low-memory window manager, I'd go with [url="http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/"]ratpoison[/url], but that's just personal taste. Edited by G-Brain

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[quote name='systems_glitch' post='333363' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:06 AM']Debian does indeed have a text-only install -- look for their "netinst" ISO image. This image boots into a minimal text install environment, and pulls all needed files from your Internet connection.

As far as other distros with text-only installs, Arch Linux and Slackware both use text mode as the default (only?) installation method. Arch Linux is 686 optimized, and since you have a Pentium III, it'd work fine for that.

XFCE and/or Fluxbox will run fine with hardware of that spec. For Linux stuff, those specs aren't really all that low.[/quote]

tried xfce debian and it crashes my ati card no idea which one it is, so basicaly it loads the computer actually loads the environment it just crashes the gpu so it doesn't display it. i tried the business card for debian could install it but couldnt load it cuz the lowest option was xfce?

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[quote name='dinscurge' post='333380' date='Mar 20 2009, 07:09 PM'][quote name='systems_glitch' post='333363' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:06 AM']Debian does indeed have a text-only install -- look for their "netinst" ISO image. This image boots into a minimal text install environment, and pulls all needed files from your Internet connection.

As far as other distros with text-only installs, Arch Linux and Slackware both use text mode as the default (only?) installation method. Arch Linux is 686 optimized, and since you have a Pentium III, it'd work fine for that.

XFCE and/or Fluxbox will run fine with hardware of that spec. For Linux stuff, those specs aren't really all that low.[/quote]

tried xfce debian and it crashes my ati card no idea which one it is, so basicaly it loads the computer actually loads the environment it just crashes the gpu so it doesn't display it. i tried the business card for debian could install it but couldnt load it cuz the lowest option was xfce?
[/quote]

Why cant you just not install a window manager when you install and then install one of your choice later? IIRC you dont need to install a window manager when installing debian.

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which menu option do i use for that? first time ive used debian for anything besides xfce/gnome/kde

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got debian running with no desktop inv. i did a
[code]apt-get install fluxbox[/code] and now it returns the error
[code]Error: Couldn't connect to XServer[/code]
when i do "fluxbox". if i try blackbox or jwm which i have also installed it returns
[code]Failed to open display[/code] Edited by dinscurge

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I'm not sure if this will fix it but try
[code]apt-get install xorg-server[/code]

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[quote name='phasma' post='333418' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:06 AM']I'm not sure if this will fix it but try
[code]apt-get install xorg-server[/code][/quote]

That should work. It sounds like the x-server isnt installed, but wouldnt installing fluxbox (or any wm) install xorg as a dependency?

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[quote name='phr34kc0der' post='333426' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:53 PM'][quote name='phasma' post='333418' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:06 AM']I'm not sure if this will fix it but try
[code]apt-get install xorg-server[/code][/quote]

That should work. It sounds like the x-server isnt installed, but wouldnt installing fluxbox (or any wm) install xorg as a dependency?
[/quote]

i guess not idk the only way i could figure out how to install debian without a gui was just hit install and dont install the desktop environment so it only loaded the base systemm which didnt have xorg i guess

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[quote name='dinscurge' post='333428' date='Mar 20 2009, 11:24 PM'][quote name='phr34kc0der' post='333426' date='Mar 20 2009, 08:53 PM'][quote name='phasma' post='333418' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:06 AM']I'm not sure if this will fix it but try
[code]apt-get install xorg-server[/code][/quote]

That should work. It sounds like the x-server isnt installed, but wouldnt installing fluxbox (or any wm) install xorg as a dependency?
[/quote]

i guess not idk the only way i could figure out how to install debian without a gui was just hit install and dont install the desktop environment so it only loaded the base systemm which didnt have xorg i guess
[/quote]

So, is it working now?

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edit: yeah it didnt install xorg when did from cd its downloadin it now so probably gonna work Edited by dinscurge

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still crashing the gpu when i do [code]xinit[/code]

probably a problem with debian/kernel/xorg mabey it workes fine with dsl for flux Edited by dinscurge

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[quote name='phasma' post='333444' date='Mar 20 2009, 11:28 PM']Post what happens when you run
[code]exec startfluxbox[/code][/quote]
[code]Error: Couldn't connect to XServer[/code]

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There is a list of problems that could be causing this. For instances:
[list]
[*]Is GDM installed?
[*]Make sure in ".xinitrc" file there is a line that reads "exec fluxbox"
[*]Make sure your system is all up to date, apt-get install updates
[*]Try rebooting your box and then try running fluxbox. (That cured my problem while back)
[*]There could be missing packages or even corrupt ones. You can look for corresponding packages with synaptic.
[/list]
If no luck, post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

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[quote name='phasma' post='333449' date='Mar 21 2009, 12:41 AM']There is a list of problems that could be causing this. For instances:
[list]
[*]Is GDM installed?
[*]Make sure in ".xinitrc" file there is a line that reads "exec fluxbox"
[*]Make sure your system is all up to date, apt-get install updates
[*]Try rebooting your box and then try running fluxbox. (That cured my problem while back)
[*]There could be missing packages or even corrupt ones. You can look for corresponding packages with synaptic.
[/list]
If no luck, post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.[/quote]
there wasn't any updates, gdm wasn't installed and it said that neither xorg.0.log or xorg.conf existed [code]no such file or directory exists[/code]
tried restarting after installing gdm it autoloaded xinit and crashed gpu right away Edited by dinscurge

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Well, what [i]does[/i] exist in /etc/x11? Try creating an xorg.conf file...

[code]Xorg -configure
mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
startx[/code]

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[quote name='Spyril' post='333495' date='Mar 21 2009, 04:35 PM']Well, what [i]does[/i] exist in /etc/x11? Try creating an xorg.conf file...

[code]Xorg -configure
mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
startx[/code][/quote]
i dont know
typed in
[code]/ect/x11/xorg.xonf[/code] said file/directory didnt exist
and yeah i cant check now it autoloads x all i can do is turn it on log in and it crashes the gpu so the screen turns off but the cpu stays on.

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[quote][code]/ect/x11/xorg.xonf[/code][/quote]

Err...I hope that isn't [i]literally[/i] what you typed in to the terminal.
You can boot into single-user text mode by appending the word "single" to your GRUB boot parameters.

[url="http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/"]http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-int...ngle-user-mode/[/url]

Then use [i]ls /etc/x11[/i] and [i]ls /var/log[/i] and tell us what shows up. Edited by Spyril

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for /etc/x11 it returns no such directory or file
for /var/log it returns 18 logs
[url="http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3"]http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Rage_Mobility_M3[/url] wonder why its crashing my ati m3 says its supported by xorg
when i tried "Xorg -configure" it put it in "/root/xorg.conf.new" so im guessing the one you were looking for was in "/usr/%usernamme%/xorg.conf"? Edited by dinscurge

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