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Getting ISO Standards

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I was wondering, ISO standard documents can be very expensive. I am mostly interested in ISO 7816, which is divided in multiple parts that cover different subjects on smart cards.

For instance:

ISO 7816-4, the part 4 of the standard, is worth more than $100, and it not even a 100 pages long. That's more than $1 a page.

Is there any engineering organization that I could become a member, and that would give me access to those standards? Or anything like that which would give me access to that kind of data for cheap? Thanks.

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Unfortunately there's money to be made in the standards industry..... the best thing to hope for is that you can find a copy laying around on the net. Sometimes a standard will be adopted by another country/organisation under a different number, and sometimes you can get an almost exactly standard at a different price.

Personally I find it rediculous that an organisation who is supposed to be promoting standards feels that it has to charge for electronic copies (same a paper in this example), if they want people to use standards then open them up!

Munge.

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Unfortunately there's money to be made in the standards industry..... the best thing to hope for is that you can find a copy laying around on the net. Sometimes a standard will be adopted by another country/organisation under a different number, and sometimes you can get an almost exactly standard at a different price.

Personally I find it rediculous that an organisation who is supposed to be promoting standards feels that it has to charge for electronic copies (same a paper in this example), if they want people to use standards then open them up!

Munge.

Yeah, I kind of have the same feeling. It would not be that bad if they gave the older versions for free, but no, they do charge full price for the older editions of ISO 7816, and worst, the prices are so freaking expensive.

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Yeah, but the preview doesn't have the content, meh... and yeah, I already had found those

EDIT: Wait, the first link actually isn't a preview. The document is 90 pages long, and has all the stuff

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A recent draft of part 13 seems to be available here.

Google indexes a dead URL which seems to have put them all:

http://76.17.36.111/Document/Standards/Sec...20(2006-11).pdf

The other parts also show up on google, but the host cannot be reached. Guessing by the fact it is indexed with an IP only and not a domain name, it is probably a server that someones has put in order to share documents with other employees, expecting nobody to go check there.

aghaster@debian:~$ whois 76.17.36.111

OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
OrgID: CMCS
Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd
City: Mt Laurel
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 08054
Country: US

NetRange: 76.16.0.0 - 76.31.255.255
CIDR: 76.16.0.0/12
NetName: WESTERN-1
NetHandle: NET-76-16-0-0-1
Parent: NET-76-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS101.COMCAST.NET
NameServer: DNS102.COMCAST.NET
NameServer: DNS103.COMCAST.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-06-28
Updated: 2008-10-31

OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance
OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@comcast.net

OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN
OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc
OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200
OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-03-18 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Googling for that particular IP gives a list of lots of standard documents, but it is down.

EDIT: Wait, you can actually ping it, maybe they decided to change the port to some weird kind of port number in an attempt to hide it from public view?

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It has SSH open:

aghaster@debian:~$ nmap 76.17.36.111

Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-19 19:15 EDT
Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 2.030 seconds
aghaster@debian:~$ ping 76.17.36.111
PING 76.17.36.111 (76.17.36.111) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=55.1 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=56.9 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=57.4 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=56.3 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=5 ttl=45 time=55.8 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=6 ttl=45 time=55.2 ms
64 bytes from 76.17.36.111: icmp_seq=7 ttl=45 time=55.7 ms
^C
--- 76.17.36.111 ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6025ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 55.181/56.107/57.404/0.772 ms
aghaster@debian:~$ nmap -PN 76.17.36.111

Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-03-19 19:15 EDT
Interesting ports on c-76-17-36-111.hsd1.ga.comcast.net (76.17.36.111):
Not shown: 1714 filtered ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 8.605 seconds

Now this is getting interesting.

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Eh, I think I'll stop here:

aghaster@debian:~$ ssh 76.17.36.111
The authenticity of host '76.17.36.111 (76.17.36.111)' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is 95:ee:89:57:5d:eb:5d:b6:9f:7e:27:0d:c9:ca:03:5a.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added '76.17.36.111' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
## Welcome to homeroom(76.17.36.111) Secure SHell(ssh) ##
## WARNING--------------------------------------------------WARNING
## WARNING This machine will log all signon attempts. WARNING
## WARNING Continuing indicates agreement to Reciprocity: WARNING
## WARNING A signon attempt will be considered a tacit WARNING
## WARNING consent to likewise behavior in perpetuity. WARNING
## WARNING If you proceed, you agree to these conditions. WARNING
## WARNING--------------------------------------------------WARNING
## Enter you username and password, root login is disabled. ##
aghaster@76.17.36.111's password:

But still, now I'm wondering what is in there, and what is the purpose of this SSH server. Has the IP been allocated to someone else, and this SSH server simply is another computer? No idea. Does anybody has an idea on how I could try to identify the computer currently using IP 76.17.36.111 as being the same one that was indexed by google?

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