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I'm not surprised you're getting a "snotty attitude" here because it's a horrible idea. To do anything even remotely interesting to the general audience, it's going to have to be quite fake. Either cheesy re-enactments or outright fiction. If there's anything hackers don't like is fictionalizing what they do as seen in movies like Hackers and Swordfish. It's campy, it's boring and I don't think anyone here wants to see any more of it. Except to laugh at.

Your input has been duly noted. But when were you appointed the spokesman for BinRev? "I don't think anyone here wants to see any more of it." lol Please, if the show gets made you'll be sitting glued to your seat watching it. Bet.

This show isn't going to be Hackers or Swordfish. This is for TV. Do you not get that?

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And for Christ's sake, learn the difference between "you're" and "your", especially when you're offering a serious TV role position.

I mean really, the most you have to contribute to this thread is putting on a spelling nazi hat and pointing out my spelling error? :roll:

Yes, I'm particularly sick of millions of people making that same goddamn error as if noone can actually learn simple grammar.

I'll gladly answer questions, but with all this demanding, snotty attitude b.s. i'm getting its not exactly motivating me to offer up much more.

Noone really cares about your offer as it is, because you haven't provided any concrete information. Who is the executive producer? Which show? And most of all:

how do you see the hacker show you plan to make not being boring? What is it going to be about?

The ones that "don't really care "are the ones it doesn't apply to, coincidence? I don't think so.

As for concrete info, i've given you more than enough info to act on. If you don't like it, get out the way. And what makes you think I need to tell you who the executive producer is?? What makes you so special that you require that information? IF you were a candidate for selection, you would find out, but your clearly not, otherwise you would have emailed me that you fit the criteria, instead of harassing me in the thread, so kick rocks.

How do i see the show not being boring? I hope its not. I never thought of hackers or the hacking subculture as being boring, but if you insist that it is, maybe I should tell you who the exec. prod. is so you can tell him how BORING hackers are and that they truly are not worthy of a TV show. Maybe it will save us time and money. :roll:

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It actually makes a lot of sense. They're not saying which company and/or television station it is because of a non-disclosure agreement..and hacking shows on national television isn't that far-fetched of an idea. Haven't you guys about the show that KingPin from the L0pht is doing for the Discovery Channel? There's also that Tiger Team series on TruTV..

The responses in this thread are characteristic of why there aren't more syndicated technical entertainment shows in pop culture--because most "geeks" are so stubborn and boring. :flamethrow:

Thanks for having an open mind. And yea, i'd have to agree with what you said about why there aren't more tech entertainment shows, if the people in this thread are representative of 'geeks' at large, who in TV would want to go through this, just to offer them an opportunity?

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`reality based docu drama' Such an effort would only excite the media, causing chaos.

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I remember there being a pilot for a show like this a while back; a television program about penetration testers at work. It was called Tiger Team. That's what you're looking to replicate isn't it? Penetration testers getting into institutions through social engineering, a bit of technical wizardry, and whatnot?

People are right to smell foul here, and you have no right to be upset at them for calling you on it. You give a disposable email address, you're very vague on the facts, and your post history suggests you're yourself interested in computer security to some extent. A first poster with a legitimate email address would be more credible. And, let's not forget that a *real* upper-class production company would not hesitate to give out *real* contact information. Even something as simple as a phone number.

And yea, i'd have to agree with what you said about why there aren't more tech entertainment shows, if the people in this thread are representative of 'geeks' at large, who in TV would want to go through this, just to offer them an opportunity?

I take exception to that. Being open and easy to deal with is a two-way street. Just look at the newbie threads. It's alot easier to get straight responses if you yourself are being straight going in. And in this case, you're not. So while I appreciate the fact that you've been patient in this thread, at least at first, do realise the folly of your own position.

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i'm pretty much with seal and ohm on this one.

i hope the show turns out neat, and i would probably find it interesting, but to make it survive against all the other shows out there, it will likely have to fabricate shit (man vs. wild) or just be stupid. i would hope it turns out cool to people like us who were interested enough in this field in the first place to spend so much time voluntarily learning about it, but to do that AND keep the show alive would take some ridiculously fine balance. I hope to god this airs on the discovery channel. from what i've seen, i think they'd be the best network to carry this.

as far as all this other stuff goes, honey attracts more flies than sugar. chill out, provide information, and when in rome, do as the romans do (double/triple posting).

But when were you appointed the spokesman for BinRev? - just from the short time i've been here i could tell Ohm's one of the more prominent members. he's also spot on about the fictionalization.

What makes you so special that you require that information? - do pardon us if we care about how our subculture is portrayed to the general public. this is excellently illustrated in the history of the term "hacker"

...betterment of the hacker subculture...And its not my version of "real", its what sells that matters. - sadly, this is exactly why this show likely won't turn out well. i hope it does, and i'd love to see how this idea turns out, but i'm not holding my breath. i know you're not in production, but the entire idea of shows being made to make money is why I hate TV. sure, there's great shows out there (mythbusters), but there's simply too much crap to wade through to get to a good show.

there's my 2 cents.

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I wonder what sort of red tape StankDawg went through to get on Animal Planet..

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*takes a big giant shizno on this idea*

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Your input has been duly noted. But when were you appointed the spokesman for BinRev? "I don't think anyone here wants to see any more of it." lol Please, if the show gets made you'll be sitting glued to your seat watching it. Bet.

I'll gladly bet. I don't own a television.

Another thing no one has touched on is privacy and paranoia. Who are you? None of us know, you haven't put the right foot forward here and dropped your own docs. So here's a little about who you are.

  • You (at least attempt to) sell pornographic domain names. Also, in your sig on this forum, you advertise "Stealth Ringtones to SuperSize your Womans boobs!". You're part of those pyramid scheme referral site things too.
  • You appear to have registered extremekidnapping.com. WTF?
  • A whois of your boobtones.com domain bears fruit.
  • Your name is apparently Adam Lamon.
  • More googling of your email address turns up lots of forum posts: here and here for example.
  • You want to buy a Fleshlight.
  • More of you, AKA Mr. Scrillion or Adam Thick.
  • Oh look, MySpace.
  • Is that an octopus on your head?

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I do believe you just got owned.

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The ones that "don't really care "are the ones it doesn't apply to, coincidence? I don't think so.

So it applies to naive people? Great.

As for concrete info, i've given you more than enough info to act on.

A few sentences of high promises is not info. You haven't given us any concrete piece of information to rely on when testing your credibility.

If you don't like it, get out the way.

No.

And what makes you think I need to tell you who the executive producer is??

Maybe the fact that you are the one who cares about making that stupid TV show? If you don't want to tell us who the producer is then why even bring the topic of him and his 5-season show up? To rub our eyes with bullshit?

What makes you so special that you require that information?

What makes you so special that you think you can tell us anything and we'll believe?

IF you were a candidate for selection, you would find out, but your clearly not, otherwise you would have emailed me that you fit the criteria, instead of harassing me in the thread, so kick rocks.

Hahahahahaha, you're a lot of fun, really. Tell you what, I don't give half a shit about your show and until you post some concrete information about it, you'll keep making a dolt out of yourself.

How do i see the show not being boring? I hope its not. I never thought of hackers or the hacking subculture as being boring, but if you insist that it is, maybe I should tell you who the exec. prod. is so you can tell him how BORING hackers are and that they truly are not worthy of a TV show. Maybe it will save us time and money.

Finally. Oh, wait, but you won't tell me because you don't need to. Can I borrow your watch, by the way? I've been asked to do so by the president. No, not the U.S. president, just some president. Can't tell you now. Oh, what's that, you're not going to lend me your watch? Well, apparently you don't deserve to lend it to the president anyway. And, no, I am not going to tell you who he is. Also, your watch sucks.

PS

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No I wouldn't.

Also,

ifu0ec.jpg

nice album cover.

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What the hell? I thought this was a thread about television! lol :skullblink:

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I remember there being a pilot for a show like this a while back; a television program about penetration testers at work. It was called Tiger Team. That's what you're looking to replicate isn't it? Penetration testers getting into institutions through social engineering, a bit of technical wizardry, and whatnot?

People are right to smell foul here, and you have no right to be upset at them for calling you on it. You give a disposable email address, you're very vague on the facts, and your post history suggests you're yourself interested in computer security to some extent. A first poster with a legitimate email address would be more credible. And, let's not forget that a *real* upper-class production company would not hesitate to give out *real* contact information. Even something as simple as a phone number.

And yea, i'd have to agree with what you said about why there aren't more tech entertainment shows, if the people in this thread are representative of 'geeks' at large, who in TV would want to go through this, just to offer them an opportunity?

I take exception to that. Being open and easy to deal with is a two-way street. Just look at the newbie threads. It's alot easier to get straight responses if you yourself are being straight going in. And in this case, you're not. So while I appreciate the fact that you've been patient in this thread, at least at first, do realise the folly of your own position.

No. I've never heard of Tiger Team. But it sounds very similar to what we want to do.

There is no foul, just a legit opportunity served up free an clear, the same way its done on message boards all over the country...the only difference is when other production co.'s do it they get responses from people interested in the opportunity, usually bending over backwards to fit into the parameters of the show, unlike here.

Yes, i'm interested in computer security. Did I not say in other posts and in my profile I used to work at BL11 as the Creative Director and paid staff writer? Look in your back issues...I'm the Goldfinger. Going back as far as 1999.

I've been in the scene, a long time. You might also remember seeing Full page ads for MY company EXTREMEKIDNAPPING in there?

I'm going to remain patient with you, because you seem to be a level headed guy. All this talk of *real* and the "realness" of the prod. co. in question is ridiculous. I do what they want. They don't want tons of hackers, or posers more likely from what i'm seeing, calling the office. I could give my number out, and ALREADY HAVE...to the people who have already responded to the post. Are you surprised? People with the skills that i've mentioned already PM'd me, and they now have my number, and will likely soon be talking to the prod.co. directly.

Nobody here is going to bully me or dictate terms to find out info they don't need. its that simple. I've been as straight as I need to be. If anyone meets the criteria, come on in...if not, oh well.

Theres no folly. My life isn't going to stop or end with this thread. I'll get who i need, and if i don't, i'll move on to a more receptive board. I guarantee I'll find people who want their own show.

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i'm pretty much with seal and ohm on this one.

i hope the show turns out neat, and i would probably find it interesting, but to make it survive against all the other shows out there, it will likely have to fabricate shit (man vs. wild) or just be stupid. i would hope it turns out cool to people like us who were interested enough in this field in the first place to spend so much time voluntarily learning about it, but to do that AND keep the show alive would take some ridiculously fine balance. I hope to god this airs on the discovery channel. from what i've seen, i think they'd be the best network to carry this.

as far as all this other stuff goes, honey attracts more flies than sugar. chill out, provide information, and when in rome, do as the romans do (double/triple posting).

But when were you appointed the spokesman for BinRev? - just from the short time i've been here i could tell Ohm's one of the more prominent members. he's also spot on about the fictionalization.

What makes you so special that you require that information? - do pardon us if we care about how our subculture is portrayed to the general public. this is excellently illustrated in the history of the term "hacker"

...betterment of the hacker subculture...And its not my version of "real", its what sells that matters. - sadly, this is exactly why this show likely won't turn out well. i hope it does, and i'd love to see how this idea turns out, but i'm not holding my breath. i know you're not in production, but the entire idea of shows being made to make money is why I hate TV. sure, there's great shows out there (mythbusters), but there's simply too much crap to wade through to get to a good show.

there's my 2 cents.

The "honey" was provided in my first post. I'm not chilled out because i've been attacked. As for Rome, i've been in Rome alot longer than most of you and if people want to act like gladiators then cool, I'm right here.

Good for Ohm being a "prominent" member, he can tattoo that shit on his forehead, i'm sure it will get him far.

Its great to be concerned about how the subculture is being portrayed and I can feel that. But who here is going to produce a hacker show? And get it on TV? Wheres the plan? Who's in charge of it? Please, tell me who's got the proper and correctly depicted version of the next hacker show in development? I'll gladly sit down with them and hell, bring them on as a consultant.... Don't all jump up at once...

Hey, I don't make the rules. TV is what it is. You roll the dice. You might like it, or you might not. Fortunately, we can always change the channel.

At least you were able to articulate an opinion without coming off as a jackass, like some others. Appreciated.

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Yeah, I am sure you will find someone dumb enough to take place in a show that will be cancelled early in. Then you dare come on BinRev and make us play a guessing game with your little scheme. You disrespect upper-class men, call all of us "poser" when your the "wannabe" gangster looking for porn utilities. The reason we said those remarks were because you were being unprofessional, arrogant, cocky and unreasonable!

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Your input has been duly noted. But when were you appointed the spokesman for BinRev? "I don't think anyone here wants to see any more of it." lol Please, if the show gets made you'll be sitting glued to your seat watching it. Bet.

I'll gladly bet. I don't own a television.

Another thing no one has touched on is privacy and paranoia. Who are you? None of us know, you haven't put the right foot forward here and dropped your own docs. So here's a little about who you are.

  • You (at least attempt to) sell pornographic domain names. Also, in your sig on this forum, you advertise "Stealth Ringtones to SuperSize your Womans boobs!". You're part of those pyramid scheme referral site things too.
  • You appear to have registered extremekidnapping.com. WTF?
  • A whois of your boobtones.com domain bears fruit.
  • Your name is apparently Adam Lamon.
  • More googling of your email address turns up lots of forum posts: here and here for example.
  • You want to buy a Fleshlight.
  • More of you, AKA Mr. Scrillion or Adam Thick.
  • Oh look, MySpace.
  • Is that an octopus on your head?

Now to deal with this ball-licker. I see you must be the leetness around here because you've "dug" up some info on me! Congratulations!

No TV huh? Shocking. They're getting cheaper now, if you want i can buy you one. Your "tell all" list is sparse, and you really should expand it. Let me help you since youR so concerned about me, in an attempt to "expose" me.

I INVEST in adult domain names and have been buying and selling them for years.

My name IS Adam Lamon. aka Adam Thick aka The Goldfinger aka Mr.Scrillion aka The Pale Hustlini AND those also appear in my FBI and Secret Service files.

I am the co-owner of www.boobtones.com and its doing quite well, thanks.

I am affiliated with several adult entertainment companies as well. I sell Fleshlights as an affiliate. They are a very popular product.

I post at numerous message boards.

Yes, that is an octopus on my head. Furthermore, I'm the owner of ExtremeKidnapping. Surprised you skipped that one, since thats my real claim to fame seeing as how we've been featured in every single piece of media from print (FHM, Playboy, Max, Marie Clare, EVE, etc.) to radio (Howard Stern, Jay Thomas and dozens upon dozens of radio shows worldwide to TV segments from all over country including Germany, Hungary, Australia, and about a dozen others to the internet and so on and so forth. CSI: Miami did an episode based on my company in 2003 called 'Extreme'. Thats really just the tip...surprised a leet haxor like yourself managed to miss all that and singled out my Fleshlite affiliate program in a lame attempt to embarrass me. I could list dozens more media that we've been featured and profiled in...but really, I think you got the point now.

The point is this. I've been in entertainment/tv/music longer than you've been in your moms basement. As a result of my rapping, kidnapping, promotional skills and wild media publicity, I was able to get MY OWN TV show, which has already been funded to the tune of 6 figures, and is being shopped to various markets. Yea, I do know a few things about TV, and now, i'm co-producing shows with a NYC prod. co. that has more than 1 show on tv.

Look clown, you are no where near on my level. You act like i'm some hidden mystery man with a pie in the sky idea trying to lure poor unsuspecting hackers to their TV doom. lol I'm more visible than the giant red L on your forehead asswipe. My phone number is all over the internet, its on my website.

www.extremekidnapping.com Please, I invite you to check it out. See what I do for a living. Maybe i'll spend a little time looking up your info, maybe you live close, and we can meet up in person and discuss it. You seem to have alot to say, i'd be glad to meet up and discuss it more if you like.

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Yeah, I am sure you will find someone dumb enough to take place in a show that will be cancelled early in. Then you dare come on BinRev and make us play a guessing game with your little scheme. You disrespect upper-class men, call all of us "poser" when your the "wannabe" gangster looking for porn utilities. The reason we said those remarks were because you were being unprofessional, arrogant, cocky and unreasonable!

Theres no guessing game, it was all spelled out in the first post. You either can read, or you can't. I disrespected no one till I was attacked. Now its on. Dont like it? Tough shit. Oh, and if you feel like I singled you out when i said posers, then the shoe must fit.

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Yeah, I am sure you will find someone dumb enough to take place in a show that will be cancelled early in. Then you dare come on BinRev and make us play a guessing game with your little scheme. You disrespect upper-class men, call all of us "poser" when your the "wannabe" gangster looking for porn utilities. The reason we said those remarks were because you were being unprofessional, arrogant, cocky and unreasonable!

Theres no guessing game, it was all spelled out in the first post. You either can read, or you can't. I disrespected no one till I was attacked. Now its on. Dont like it? Tough shit. Oh, and if you feel like I singled you out when i said posers, then the shoe must fit.

Lol, I guess it must! Your right and all-powerful. :roll:

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The ones that "don't really care "are the ones it doesn't apply to, coincidence? I don't think so.

So it applies to naive people? Great.

As for concrete info, i've given you more than enough info to act on.

A few sentences of high promises is not info. You haven't given us any concrete piece of information to rely on when testing your credibility.

If you don't like it, get out the way.

No.

And what makes you think I need to tell you who the executive producer is??

Maybe the fact that you are the one who cares about making that stupid TV show? If you don't want to tell us who the producer is then why even bring the topic of him and his 5-season show up? To rub our eyes with bullshit?

What makes you so special that you require that information?

What makes you so special that you think you can tell us anything and we'll believe?

IF you were a candidate for selection, you would find out, but your clearly not, otherwise you would have emailed me that you fit the criteria, instead of harassing me in the thread, so kick rocks.

Hahahahahaha, you're a lot of fun, really. Tell you what, I don't give half a shit about your show and until you post some concrete information about it, you'll keep making a dolt out of yourself.

How do i see the show not being boring? I hope its not. I never thought of hackers or the hacking subculture as being boring, but if you insist that it is, maybe I should tell you who the exec. prod. is so you can tell him how BORING hackers are and that they truly are not worthy of a TV show. Maybe it will save us time and money.

Finally. Oh, wait, but you won't tell me because you don't need to. Can I borrow your watch, by the way? I've been asked to do so by the president. No, not the U.S. president, just some president. Can't tell you now. Oh, what's that, you're not going to lend me your watch? Well, apparently you don't deserve to lend it to the president anyway. And, no, I am not going to tell you who he is. Also, your watch sucks.

PS

2zgvzx3.jpg

No I wouldn't.

Also,

ifu0ec.jpg

nice album cover.

Just wondered what the purpose of posting a punk ass snitch and registered C.I. in this thread was supposed to do? Was that supposed to hurt my feelings or embarrass me? That guy set me up with the feds, and as a result I did 2 years in federal prison. I have history with him no doubt, I just don't see how posting that in THIS thread helps your case except to illustrate youR ignorance? I'm sure your point is a good one though, keep working on it.

"nice album cover". Thanks. I liked it too.

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So, now that we're completely off-topic, hah! I kinda miss BL!411.. It had more of a k-rad underground feel to it than 2600.. :2guns: and obviously it was hella leet when compared to BinRev's zine. What kinda articlez did you write for it?

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Just wondered what the purpose of posting a punk ass snitch and registered C.I. in this thread was supposed to do? Was that supposed to hurt my feelings or embarrass me? That guy set me up with the feds, and as a result I did 2 years in federal prison.

And now you're recruiting for a TV show for a guy that had 5 seasons running?

the only difference is when other production co.'s do it they get responses from people interested in the opportunity, usually bending over backwards to fit into the parameters of the show, unlike here.

Hahahaha, you expect people to bend over for your vague propositions? You really are clueless.

The "honey" was provided in my first post. I'm not chilled out because i've been attacked.

You started with the passive agressive responses.

But who here is going to produce a hacker show? And get it on TV? Wheres the plan? Who's in charge of it? Please, tell me who's got the proper and correctly depicted version of the next hacker show in development? I'll gladly sit down with them and hell, bring them on as a consultant.... Don't all jump up at once...

How about you tell us about the show you're doing, just like I asked three times before?

Surprised you skipped that one, since thats my real claim to fame seeing as how we've been featured in every single piece of media from print (FHM, Playboy, Max, Marie Clare, EVE, etc.) to radio (Howard Stern, Jay Thomas and dozens upon dozens of radio shows worldwide to TV segments from all over country including Germany, Hungary, Australia, and about a dozen others to the internet and so on and so forth.

Funny, I never heard of you.

surprised a leet haxor like yourself managed to miss all that and singled out my Fleshlite affiliate program in a lame attempt to embarrass me.

You embarass your own self enough, he doesn't need to do anything.

As a result of my rapping, kidnapping, promotional skills and wild media publicity, I was able to get MY OWN TV show, which has already been funded to the tune of 6 figures, and is being shopped to various markets.

Obviously all your rapping and kidnapping didn't help when it came to you landing in prison.

You act like i'm some hidden mystery man with a pie in the sky idea trying to lure poor unsuspecting hackers to their TV doom. lol I'm more visible than the giant red L on your forehead asswipe. My phone number is all over the internet, its on my website.

Then why did he and the rest of the people in this thread have to provoke you for over a day to post that information and you still didn't do it? If you're so fucking brilliant then why didn't you show your credentials at the beginning? Why are you behaving like some kind of shut-in asperger's kid when it comes to giving some concrete information and then spaz out when people get sick of your bullshit?

See what I do for a living. Maybe i'll spend a little time looking up your info, maybe you live close, and we can meet up in person and discuss it. You seem to have alot to say, i'd be glad to meet up and discuss it more if you like.

Be afraid, the rapping, kidnapping internet tough guy is watching you.

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...usually bending over backwards to fit into the parameters of the show, unlike here...

i think the differences here are we won't whore ourselves out. standards and all that.

Did I not say in other posts and in my profile I used to work at BL11 as the Creative Director and paid staff writer? [blah blah blah]

i hadn't heard of bl11 so i tried to find out what it was:

http://www.google.com/search?q=BL11&ie...lient=firefox-a

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...amp;search=BL11

according to those two links, BL11 is something me, and many other people, don't care enough about to mention. this is one of those times you could provide concrete info, like a link to the periodical's website for example.

People with the skills that i've mentioned already PM'd me, and they now have my number, and will likely soon be talking to the prod.co. directly.
someone here has this guy's number? care to share?
Theres no folly. My life isn't going to stop or end with this thread. I'll get who i need, and if i don't, i'll move on to a more receptive board. I guarantee I'll find people who want their own show.

nice damage control. face it, the fact that we didn't hop on your cock when you mentioned a TV show is bothering you, and you just don't want us to know.

i'm done here.

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...usually bending over backwards to fit into the parameters of the show, unlike here...

i think the differences here are we won't whore ourselves out. standards and all that.

Did I not say in other posts and in my profile I used to work at BL11 as the Creative Director and paid staff writer? [blah blah blah]

i hadn't heard of bl11 so i tried to find out what it was:

http://www.google.com/search?q=BL11&ie...lient=firefox-a

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...amp;search=BL11

according to those two links, BL11 is something me, and many other people, don't care enough about to mention. this is one of those times you could provide concrete info, like a link to the periodical's website for example.

People with the skills that i've mentioned already PM'd me, and they now have my number, and will likely soon be talking to the prod.co. directly.
someone here has this guy's number? care to share?
Theres no folly. My life isn't going to stop or end with this thread. I'll get who i need, and if i don't, i'll move on to a more receptive board. I guarantee I'll find people who want their own show.

nice damage control. face it, the fact that we didn't hop on your cock when you mentioned a TV show is bothering you, and you just don't want us to know.

i'm done here.

OMG. Are you brain damaged? You've never heard of Blacklisted411?? What are you doing here? oh, i'm sorry, before the nazi spell checker jumps in please allow me to spell it correctly for you. I missed the '4'. BL411? Since I didn't provide a link, maybe you can ask one of your leet pals here to fill you in on it. :roll:

My number? Why don't you use your googling skills to look it up? I only provided you my website link...heres a hint...its on there! :o

Yes, you've got me figured out. Whats bothering me is the negative response and personal attacks, but if I need help with hopping on a cock i'll ask an expert. Whats your number?

good. Be done here.

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