Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
moth

um, wireless network.

25 posts in this topic

So I saw a wireless network that was unsecured, and I secured it by guessing the password to the router (it was the default for that router). This is the first time I have done anything like this and I was just wondering what I could do to, well hide my tracks you might say.

- moth

Edited by moth
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dude seriously, that is not a nice thing to do.

That is cruel and stealing, and for what reason?

Take the key off and put the default password back on, that's the best way to cover your tracks.

What an ahole move. This is not hacking.

Excuse my french.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dude seriously, that is not a nice thing to do.

That is cruel and stealing, and for what reason?

Take the key off and put the default password back on, that's the best way to cover your tracks.

What an ahole move. This is not hacking.

Excuse my french.

I guess your right, but shouldn't people learn how to secure their own networks? And why? Because I saw the unsecured network and wanted to try it.

Edited by moth
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Forgive me if I'm blunt, but putting a network key on their wireless router is only costing them money and undeserved wasted time. You need to put it back, and as far as them needing to secure their network, that's not a good way to do it. And now since you already messed up, I'm sure they wouldn't be happy to find out it was you. Just put it back and never mess with it again.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And if you really want to try and fix things, type them a letter telling them how to secure their network.

This is assuming it's your neighbor considering what I can determine.

Edited by r4p1d
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And if you really want to try and fix things, type them a letter telling them how to secure their network.

This is assuming it's your neighbor considering what I can determine.

I have no clue who this person is, so how could I write to them? Also I would change it back, but every time I put the ip back in it won't connect.

- moth

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And if you really want to try and fix things, type them a letter telling them how to secure their network.

This is assuming it's your neighbor considering what I can determine.

I have no clue who this person is, so how could I write to them? Also I would change it back, but every time I put the ip back in it won't connect.

- moth

I'm assuming this is a linksys router, if so the default ip would be 192.168.1.1 and the user would be admin and the pass would be admin

Make sure your close enough to the connection, you can pinpoint it by walking around I suppose.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And if you really want to try and fix things, type them a letter telling them how to secure their network.

This is assuming it's your neighbor considering what I can determine.

I have no clue who this person is, so how could I write to them? Also I would change it back, but every time I put the ip back in it won't connect.

- moth

I'm assuming this is a linksys router, if so the default ip would be 192.168.1.1 and the user would be admin and the pass would be admin

Make sure your close enough to the connection, you can pinpoint it by walking around I suppose.

Actually it was a Belkin... and yeah the password was admin. I'm close enough to the network to connect but every time I try to re enter the ip it won't take me to the router settings?

- moth

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
And if you really want to try and fix things, type them a letter telling them how to secure their network.

This is assuming it's your neighbor considering what I can determine.

I have no clue who this person is, so how could I write to them? Also I would change it back, but every time I put the ip back in it won't connect.

- moth

I'm assuming this is a linksys router, if so the default ip would be 192.168.1.1 and the user would be admin and the pass would be admin

Make sure your close enough to the connection, you can pinpoint it by walking around I suppose.

Actually it was a Belkin... and yeah the password was admin. I'm close enough to the network to connect but every time I try to re enter the ip it won't take me to the router settings?

- moth

Try clearing your private data and entering in the ip in after you restart the browser. It should prompt you again fro the user and password.

Put all the settings back to how they were before.

Edited by r4p1d
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh and if it is belkin I believe the ip should be 192.168.2.1

Oh and try not using a password if admin doesn't work

Edited by r4p1d
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

come on man, this is just mindless destruction. You essentially DOS'd someone from their own network. NOT COOL. Fix it. If you want to be cute and helpful while still breaking the law, print a note to their printer, or leave them a text file on their desktop. This is just lame. If you cant figure out how to fix it, and you're too big of a wus to own up to it, just leave them instructions at their door for how to reset their router. You don't have to worry about covering your tracks, because whoever fixes it will have to reset the router anyway.

Edited by Lord Wud
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

People like moth here should be jailed, indefinitely.. they may have been naive and ignorant, but you're downright arrogant and destructive.

Edited by BSDfan
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
So what's the point of this thread, exactly?

Have you ever gone through the forums reading only the locked topics?

See those as a reference

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
So what's the point of this thread, exactly?

Have you ever gone through the forums reading only the locked topics?

See those as a reference

Did you even read it fully? I said I wanted to know how to hide my tracks if there were any. :roll:

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldn't be that worried about hiding your tracks. Given that the person is either not smart enough to secure their own connetion or posesses the intelligence but lacks the motivation to do such a thing would make me think that there is no way they would ever track you. It isn't like you owned some multi national organization so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you want to keep more anonymous there are plenty of things you can read thanks to google. I might suggest changing your MAC address as this will be one of the identifying points for your machine. Still I wouldn't worry about it though. 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldnt do that. Personally. There is not a whole lot to cover. If there is a ways to make yourself annonymous do that. I wouldnt do that though thats just very sh@#$. I mean if your gonna do something even close to this then you should make it meaningfull and usefull to extend your knowledge. Trust me dont be an ahole. :nono:

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I wouldn't be that worried about hiding your tracks. Given that the person is either not smart enough to secure their own connetion or posesses the intelligence but lacks the motivation to do such a thing would make me think that there is no way they would ever track you. It isn't like you owned some multi national organization so I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you want to keep more anonymous there are plenty of things you can read thanks to google. I might suggest changing your MAC address as this will be one of the identifying points for your machine. Still I wouldn't worry about it though. 

Alright, thanks for the help.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dude seriously, that is not a nice thing to do.

That is cruel and stealing, and for what reason?

Take the key off and put the default password back on, that's the best way to cover your tracks.

What an ahole move. This is not hacking.

Excuse my french.

I couldn't agree more, this is really why the term "hacker" is thought to be about destruction.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jesus christ you guys are all a bunch of fucking pussies, i think its a fun little prank and besides it might teach the owner a lesson in securing their network, and how the fuck is that going to waste their time and money? like resetting the router takes about 20 sec. shit man i dont ever see any real fun ideas or hacking from any of you any more all i see is "ZOMG RULES RULES RULES FOLLOW RULES" blah fucking blah fucking blah, what he posted isnt against any fucking rules, why dont the rest of you grow some nuts and learn to have a little fun.

OK, well considering he says he doesn't know where it is coming from, he probably lives in apartments or condo's. If that is the case It could be an old couple of the age of 80 who only know how to use a computer to email their children that are over sea's. It must be tragic not knowing if your parents are dead or alive in america. Have you ever thought about it that way? That would be tragic... Do they need to secure their network? Or should they not have to worry about people abusing them with no good intentions? Or maybe the enternet connection belongs to a weirdo who likes kiddie porn, then it wouldn't be so tragic, it would be ironic.

And no stuff like this is not why hackers get a bad name. If they can't secure their own network I doubt they will know why it stopped working.

Edited by r4p1d
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think about the old people. :D

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, well he obviously didn't do any cracking so I guess this thread is dead.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jesus christ you guys are all a bunch of fucking pussies, i think its a fun little prank and besides it might teach the owner a lesson in securing their network, and how the fuck is that going to waste their time and money? like resetting the router takes about 20 sec. shit man i dont ever see any real fun ideas or hacking from any of you any more all i see is "ZOMG RULES RULES RULES FOLLOW RULES" blah fucking blah fucking blah, what he posted isnt against any fucking rules, why dont the rest of you grow some nuts and learn to have a little fun.

I have to disagree with this one. While yes, it is fun fucking with people, this was a disregard for the old saying "The best kept secret is the one that nobody knows exists". In this case, making himself blatantly obvious by changing something other than non user informed modifications is providing a DoS to the end user, giving them a freak out case calling their ISP going ZOMG wheres mah interwebs!!!!!! In the end, leaving it be, maybe informing them creatively through a redirect of their dns, telling them how to setup their shit, hell that would have gotten mad props from me, you proved your point of knowing a proper security measure and you "Creatively" taught someone a little about their equipment that they probably were clueless or heck even ignorant to its functions.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jesus christ you guys are all a bunch of fucking pussies, i think its a fun little prank and besides it might teach the owner a lesson in securing their network, and how the fuck is that going to waste their time and money? like resetting the router takes about 20 sec. shit man i dont ever see any real fun ideas or hacking from any of you any more all i see is "ZOMG RULES RULES RULES FOLLOW RULES" blah fucking blah fucking blah, what he posted isnt against any fucking rules, why dont the rest of you grow some nuts and learn to have a little fun.

I have to disagree with this one. While yes, it is fun fucking with people, this was a disregard for the old saying "The best kept secret is the one that nobody knows exists". In this case, making himself blatantly obvious by changing something other than non user informed modifications is providing a DoS to the end user, giving them a freak out case calling their ISP going ZOMG wheres mah interwebs!!!!!! In the end, leaving it be, maybe informing them creatively through a redirect of their dns, telling them how to setup their shit, hell that would have gotten mad props from me, you proved your point of knowing a proper security measure and you "Creatively" taught someone a little about their equipment that they probably were clueless or heck even ignorant to its functions.

this makes sense Zapperlink, a post like yours would've been cool, i suppose what really just pisses me is that i see so many people just posting

3. DEFINITION OF "HACKING"

Hacking is about production, not destruction; it involves curiosity, research, analysis, knowledge, the creation of new ideas, the discovery of amazing breakthroughs, and the sharing of information with those who will use it responsibly. Hacking is not illegal activity. The Digital Dawg Pound and the Binary Revolution Forums will not take any responsibility for your actions, nor do we condone any sort of illegal activity, especially in the name of hacking.

instead of posting something useful or relevant to the OP or topic. I mean seriously people need to quit trying to be fuckin netnannys and start being hackers. if you dont have any knowledge on the topic or OP then dont fucking post any thing, but dont try ass kiss the mods and admins by trying to be forum police, i mean shit save your opinions and useless comments for general chat and let the rest of the forums be a place to learn and share ideas and info. unless someone is blatantly breaking the law or forum rules (in which case the mods will take care of it) then people need to STFU. i thought these forums were about hacking, not a place for every joe mc'n00b to voice his opinions on what he thinks is right and wrong. i dunno maybe im way off here, if so then someone please correct me and i'll kindly STFU and go away. But i hardly see how anyone is supposed to learn anything when all we do is shut people down and call them aholes just for exploring and beng curious about things that are new to them.

Well there is no doubt people do disagree with improper methods of the term "hacker" but in all fairness, I dont think anyone in this topic really cares to defend its definition. What it comes down to is either a aggressive "no tolerance" policy of how you should have handled it, or a "FREEBIRD YO" approach to the situation. This in the end is up to each poster, experienced or not, to decide where they want to take the topic. I personally believe that if your ready for the mindset, hell there is my way, and there is other ways, Ill tell you my way, if you take it.. great.. if not.. shit Ill still talk game with ya.. but there is only so much I personally support, but im willing to talk beyond my personal morals for the sake of exploring a topic. That is what I believe the hard wall barrier here, morals and sharing for the sake of sharing. There is no right answer to this, its up to your own personal morals, what your willing to express, and I hope BinRev will properly moderate themselves to expand a persons knowledge and protect common sense in the same zone.

Hope that shit made sense..

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
i think its a fun little prank and besides it might teach the owner a lesson in securing their network,

Chances are they'll just think its broke. People who are dumb enough to leave there shit wide open usually don't even consider the possibility that someone could be fucking with them on purpose. A while back a friend of mine was using stolen wifi from a neighboring business. My friend, who had just learned about the magic of bit torrent was using way too much bandwidth. The business must have noticed the lag, so to fix the problem they just bought a new router. Of course, they left that one insecure also. May not be the best example though, from what I hear they kept sensitive customer information, and porn in the same share folder.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0