cottonballz

Hacker gets busted at school....

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Hi, i am cottonballs and this is a continuation of my previous thread>

http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18811

The name didnt match so i thought i would change it.

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UPDATE!!!!

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Well, its been awhile and i thought i would let u in on the recent events... 1 week ago, on THursday March 23. We got a call from a man from the FCBOE Tech Specialist and they were calling in responce asking for my computer back. (Yes, i havent got my computer back...) Well he called and he told me that they had found some interesting things on my computer "of interest". He started off the convo by saying that he had evidence against me saying that i had tryed to get into the school from my home computer, which was false. Well he said he wanted to meet with my parents and me person to person. We did today, Friday March 31, 2006. When we came in, he askewd for only my parents which made me rly nervous. Sitting in the waiting room for an hour, they finally call me back and present the evidence against me. They had gotten all the programs and code and pron and tools that i deleted, back. This guy was part of the computer forensics dept and he was telling me that he knew about alot of the stuff on my computer... He presented an email from long long long ago in script kiddie days that i had used a trojan called prorat and infected a view computers, he knew this because i set some notifications to my email... (long b4 i knew of sites like willhackforfood.biz). All in all, he found all my tools, pron, and everything i didnt want him so see. Includeing my emails. You might be thinking, this kid is toast.... Well...

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The good news

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No charges are agaisnt me and none will ever be. I will be getting my computer back soon, (probally with some modifications mayb.) Also, its hard to believe but the person i talked to said that the FBI was interested in me and meeting me and having help them with stuff. Im sure their not gonna ask for a pen test and shit lol, but he said that they were interested in me and my situation.

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Some bad news...

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Like i said from the tribunal, i was expelled from my school and i wsa supposed to go to another regular public school. But im going to Independence High School, a school basically where u do all the work urself and the teachers just sleep. (Basically). And they guy we talked to actually asked if he could use my handle and passwords in order to talk to ppl i know and get to know them. He basically thinks that i talk to other hackers and trade files with them and trade wares with them.

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But that should rap it up from my last post...

P.S. = Dont follow me, its definatly a shit hole.

And *Note to Self*- Try not to talk about porn with dad again.... *chills down spine*

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And they guy we talked to actually asked if he could use my handle and passwords in order to talk to ppl i know and get to know them.

Ok guys, stop talking to him now.

its hard to believe but the person i talked to said that the FBI was interested in me...

I seem to recall someone's great advice here.

Especially anything that starts with: I never thought this would happen to me, but ...
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Ok guys, stop talking to him now.

Nah, dont stop talking to me, irc and forums are the only things keeping from going insane with stress and annoyance. But as long as im not getting charged, im happy.

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Bro, it kind of sounds like you are missing the obvious.

Also, its hard to believe but the person i talked to said that the FBI was interested in me and meeting me and having help them with stuff. Im sure their not gonna ask for a pen test and shit lol, but he said that they were interested in me and my situation.

They want you to snitch. That's all.

And they guy we talked to actually asked if he could use my handle and passwords in order to talk to ppl i know and get to know them. He basically thinks that i talk to other hackers and trade files with them and trade wares with them.

See...

They found your data? Why didn't you listen and overwrite that shit?!!?! If you would have used Eraser on Windows or Secure Delete like I linked to you would have been able to laugh at the Board of Ed ( I assume you meant X county board of ed) forensic guy. Before you say he recovered it anyway, let me just say you probably didn't do it right. There is very little chance *anyone* is recovering an overwrite in secure mode with Secure Delete. Never mind a county IT guy. I am one. I don't do forensics, but work closely with the people who do when it is needed. We don't have the resources, and I'm in an area with a population in the top 100 of the U.S., and maybe the largest tourist population in the U.S (Central FL). If they can get data after this I would be shocked:

From the readme for secure delete

1x overwrite with 0xff

5x random passes

27x overwriting with special values to make the recovery from MFM and RLL encoded harddisks hard/impossible - see Gutmann's paper on that which is also included.

5x random passes

I could understand if you were raided, but you brought your PC to them at your leisure didn't you?

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yeah dude, this prob isnt the best place for you to be hangin out right now. if i were you id quit computers for a while. i mean, think about it. hell, if i were you, id be too scared to touch a computer

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yeah dude, this prob isnt the best place for you to be hangin out right now. if i were you id quit computers for a while.  i mean, think about it.  hell, if i were you, id be too scared to touch a computer

I wouldn't go that far. Maybe boot and nuke my pc a few times and give my self some new proxies.

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LEts just hope you dont have binrev on your bookmarks. ;)

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man, I feel really bad for you. You got expled just for the mounted network drives on your computer? I would probly think of a lesser punishment, probly never use the computer at school again. But they accused you of trying to access the school computers from your pc? WTF? Some kind of idiot...

That makes me think, I should be more carful with my data. If I get caught doing some stuff I am not supposed to do, will I be safe?

So last night, I built a backup box. Basically, I have written a script that every hour, the box completely copy's all the content off my computers in the network. To an addition, every workstation in my house has a usb hub that is hooked up to the backup box (lot of cable). Another script will instantly copy all of the data on any usb stick plugged into one of these hubs. To top it all off, my backup box comes with 1tb of hdd space, all the hdd's are removeable from the drive bays. When I pull the last hdd out, a script will activate and send a *nuke* file to all my workstations that will run the boot and nuke cd.

I'm scared. :omfg:

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yeah dude, this prob isnt the best place for you to be hangin out right now. if i were you id quit computers for a while.  i mean, think about it.  hell, if i were you, id be too scared to touch a computer

Get rid of your computer. I reccomend you donate your computer to the FBI computer forensics team. :P

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well, a tribunal is basically a school level trial. And they decided the "verdict" to be expelled. And i didnt get expelled for mapping network drives, i got in trouble for getting into my network dmins acccount and copying her files containing user names and passowrds, faculty info (adress, home #, SSN).

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And i understand that i should have used something to secure delete my files but first of, there was a alot of files and there was alot of things that i did delete with secure delete. But i guess he got some of them that i didnt happen to delete with Secure DElete (which was more than a couple)... And b4 u go on and on about, u should have done this, did that. I know... This hole thing has been reality check and im definatly gonna start taking more percautions and safety measures.

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And yea, i think that the FBI mgiht want me to snitch or sumthing. They havent said much about the FBI but just to b clear. Im not going to snitch on anyone b/c i seriously have no-one to snitch on... You guys are just geeks. :P Which i mean in the best way possible. :P

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We used to call them tribunals when you fucked up big time...three faculty officers reviewed you, and you were guilty unless you could prove yourself innocent, and you got no defense representative or anything...of course this was for major things. It frightens me that a public school system would call such a thing a tribunal!

DBAN -- live cd, "Derek's Boot n Nuke"...boot it up, erase to DoD standards, RCMP standards, or whatever the British use.

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U wanna know sumthing thats funny?

If you live in Georgia then u might already know.

This happened in the state that i live in, Georgia. Its quite funny b/c everything this college student did, i did except i didnt DDOS the network . Totally wierd...

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College Student Charged in Hacking

ROME, Ga. (AP) -- A Shorter College student has been arrested and is accused of hacking into the school's computer system.

Adrian Laza, 22, was jailed Wednesday and has been charged with computer invasion of privacy, computer trespass and computer theft, according to Floyd County Jail records.

From Feb. 6 to March 6, Laza, who had been living in a dorm, allegedly caused a malfunction with the school's computer network that disrupted data and caused problems with students' access to the network. He is also accused of getting personal information about school employees.

Since discovering the computer breach, Shorter College officials have been working to stop other possible hackers, said Dawn Tolbert, the school's director of institutional relations.

"Security is always a concern and our people have been working to look at how our network is set up and make sure things are secure," Tolbert said. "We have had outside consultants come in to help us."

Tolbert said she does not why the system was breached or why the employees' information was retrieved.

Laza faces disciplinary action at the school, she said.

Jim Moser, Rome police lead investigator, declined comment Wednesday, saying it was an ongoing investigation. Deputy Chief Lonzo Roberson said he was not sure how expansive the case is but said it is being investigated by multiple agencies.

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Source: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/georgia...x?storyid=77999

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caused a malfunction with the school's computer network that disrupted data and caused problems with students' access to the network.

Thats the kicker there. And I assume you didn't get any charges brought on you because you are also underage too. Although, I would see no reason for not charging you as an adult.

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Heh.. what's to say Mr. Computer FBI guy didn't install any backdoors on your system so they could keep up with you and fulfill their interest? I would wipe your machine now even..

And no offense or anything, but maybe after that you should look into something else as a pastime activity..

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Yea, when if ever i get my desktop back im gonna go ahead and wipe it. And im not doing anything illegal, im just talking on forums. They already know the websites i visit and all that shit. Theres not much point in tryin to hide. They already know... And they probaly are gonna try to keep an eye on me now.

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Quick ?, if i ran a nuke cd or eraser boot disk to erase everything on my HDD, does that mean everything including the OS. Or will the OS stay entact? (Win XP)

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It nukes *everything*...fills the drive with null data, then does it several more times.

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You should probably smash your hard drive into a million pieces with a sledgehammer, throw the broken fragments in a river, and act like you've never seen a computer in your life. Data security! :)

You can still use the library computers to hack pr0n sites. And payphones to redbox calls to your hacker friends. You can still be a rebel!

(I'm joking.)

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Ok guys, stop talking to him now.

Nah, dont stop talking to me, irc and forums are the only things keeping from going insane with stress and annoyance. But as long as im not getting charged, im happy.

we don't have anything to worry about, it is not like anyone here is doing anything illegal.

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Ok guys, stop talking to him now.

Nah, dont stop talking to me, irc and forums are the only things keeping from going insane with stress and annoyance. But as long as im not getting charged, im happy.

we don't have anything to worry about, it is not like anyone here is doing anything illegal.

:lol::lol::lol:

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if it's a desktop just trash the hd and get a new one. fresh start :)

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Well we got a call today, they didnt want to talk to me but the did talk to mey dad and told him that we would be getting my comp on monday!!! Say Hello to my games and videos I havent played in ages (1month and a week or so, it was hell though).

Just thought i would let you know...

I think that my whole expierience is now over... im getting my comp bak, (havent called the school about my flash drive, but it should b soon). Im going to school again.

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This will probaly be my last post on this topic.

And one again... thx to everyone here who supported me and help me get through this.

Shouts to the binrev forums, to the #infonomicon crew on irc.freenode.net, to my parents for being good sports about it, to my tribunal advisor... (she was just nice...), and to anyone else i ran into along the way.

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Ill start my text file covering the whole thing when i get my computer bak.

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Peace!

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First off, that technician is a fucking idiot. Next time he talks to you, laugh at him and tell him to go to hell. If he's asking you all this shit, apparently he thinks you're some "elite hacker" because you wrote an email about a trojan, and you mapped some drives that were open? If he's this goddamn concerned with you, he's a moron. Apparently this dumbass thinks you're some head boss in the computer crime mafia. I mean... wtf?

Second of all, when they asked for your computer, you should have told them to kiss your ass. I've heard you talk about this before in the irc channel, and you even said they didn't have a warrant,the school just "asked" for your computer and you gave it to them. How retarded. Next time someone asks for your computer, ask for a warrant and a badge. If it's the school, tell them to screw themselves. Once again, I highly recommend laughing at them.

This is seriously some screwed up shit that's happening to you. Don't fucking take it. Yeah it wasn't smart to map those drives, but the school has no right to take your home computer and scan the harddrive like that, and the fact that you let them is insane. Do something about it. Contact a goddamn lawyer. I mean... shit. You might (although I doubt it) even have lawsuit material here. If you're being expelled because of something they found on your home computer (or they hinted that had anything to do it), there's a possibility. I'm no legal expert, trust me, try to talk to a lawyer. Most of all don't take shit sitting down.

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