Mr.Sandman

Hacking The Windows XP

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appearently he cannot boot from a usb drive, because it is set to boot from the harddrive. But I am pretty sure that the bios is password protected as well and he cannot access it.

And to answer your question: in order to boot from a usb drive you need to have a usb drive. put some files on it. plug it in and start up your computer.

I have never actaully done this before, since I am only running old computers.

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Can you boot into safe mode? if so cant u creat a admin account and then get the password from the sam file?

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You can change the boot order in BIOS, attach a usb cdrom or floppy and then boot to that. That way has nothing to do with windows.

[quote name='Mr.Sandman' date='Oct 28 2005, 09:20 AM']I REPEAT IN ORDER TO USE A CD AND/OR FLOPPY DIVE I NEED TO KNOW THE ADMIN PASSWORD. ( If i knew it would not be asking how to get it. DUH)
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While I am sure the school wouldn't like this....I doubt it's any worse than resetting the admin password which is what you are trying to do anyway.

What am I missing here? You say you can't boot to a CD ROM because of a BIOS password, that so far, I think your assuming is there. First make sure it isn't a default BIOS password. If it isn't go to the store and buy a size 0 or 1 phillips head, take the laptop apart, and clear CMOS. ;)

This is really simple, I think it just seems tough to you. You'll see the battery or jumpers somewhere in there. I've heard some laptops use the regular battery, but haven't seen that myself. You can try removing that too, with the power cord unplugged.

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[quote name='Mr.Sandman' date='Oct 31 2005, 09:50 AM'][quote name='mausa' date='Oct 30 2005, 04:41 PM']but I believe in a different thread he said, that the school has removed the cd rom drives and he cannot boot from a usb drive. So: no easy [url="http://www.xoshare.com/tps/Boobies/boobie.jpg"]boobies[/url] for him.
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Exactly! So why the hell you guys keep giving me advise on things that need to be copyed on a disk and/or floppy. :pissed:

P.S im not trying to look at boobie and/or dickies. I dont need the admins code to do that. (Thats what Google Images are for duh!)
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OK. It really isn't a sure fix anyway. I have no idea if your laptop stores it on EEPROM or what not. It could be worth a try to see though. It isn't surgery, it's possibly as simple as remove a dozen screws, do paperclip trick, insert a dozen screws. :D

If your that shy about it though, this should help you.
[url="http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic18780-pg1.html&pp=20"]http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic18780-pg1.html&pp=20[/url]

Yes, it's very long. Read it.

This seems to be the file they are talking about.
[url="http://www.bios-drivers.com/drivers/61/61224.htm"]http://www.bios-drivers.com/drivers/61/61224.htm[/url]

Good Luck

Edit: Odd...I am pretty sure I quoted the single line post above by Mr. Sandman. Not the one that showed up. Edited by Evolve

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After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account. You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS. Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.

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[quote name='tehbizz' date='Nov 1 2005, 12:32 AM']After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account.  You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS.  Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.
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Didnt your mother ever tell you "If you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all."

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[quote name='Evolve' date='Oct 31 2005, 03:04 PM'][quote name='Mr.Sandman' date='Oct 31 2005, 09:50 AM'][quote name='mausa' date='Oct 30 2005, 04:41 PM']but I believe in a different thread he said, that the school has removed the cd rom drives and he cannot boot from a usb drive. So: no easy [url="http://www.xoshare.com/tps/Boobies/boobie.jpg"]boobies[/url] for him.
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Exactly! So why the hell you guys keep giving me advise on things that need to be copyed on a disk and/or floppy. :pissed:

P.S im not trying to look at boobie and/or dickies. I dont need the admins code to do that. (Thats what Google Images are for duh!)
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OK. It really isn't a sure fix anyway. I have no idea if your laptop stores it on EEPROM or what not. It could be worth a try to see though. It isn't surgery, it's possibly as simple as remove a dozen screws, do paperclip trick, insert a dozen screws. :D

If your that shy about it though, this should help you.
[url="http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic18780-pg1.html&pp=20"]http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic18780-pg1.html&pp=20[/url]

Yes, it's very long. Read it.

This seems to be the file they are talking about.
[url="http://www.bios-drivers.com/drivers/61/61224.htm"]http://www.bios-drivers.com/drivers/61/61224.htm[/url]

Good Luck

Edit: Odd...I am pretty sure I quoted the single line post above by Mr. Sandman. Not the one that showed up.
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Im using an Inspipon l 4100 model laptop. There talking about another model. Think it will still work? Edited by Mr.Sandman

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It should work, but if you are worried, go download the manuals from Dell. They should tell you how to do it.

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No rekenaar, Dell won't help with this at all. Their manuals won't tell and neither would customer support (laptop theft issues).

Will it work? I don't know. It might, it might not. Try and let us know. This is a hacking forum after all. No one ever accomplished anything wondering about it.

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[quote name='Mr.Sandman' date='Nov 1 2005, 10:44 AM'][quote name='tehbizz' date='Nov 1 2005, 12:32 AM']After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account.  You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS.  Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.
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Didnt your mother ever tell you "If you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all."
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My reply is actually full of [b]good[/b] information. How do I know this? I help admin a large network using AD so I know what I'm talking about. Yes, my mother told me that but she also told me "Never look a gift horse in the mouth."

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Guess I was wrong. I was able to find out how to reset the a Dimension desktop BIOS password, but could not find anything on the Inspiron. When I contacted Dell about this, here is the response...

"Thank you for contacting Dell Support.

Each portable system has a unique master password. If you have forgotten the password to your system, you must contact our Mobile Computing Hotline at 800-822-8965 for Corporate/Government Accounts or at 800-247-9252 for Direct accounts. You will be connected to a Portable Computer Technical Specialist who, after verifying that you are the registered owner of the system, can look up the master password for you. We cannot distribute those over e-mail, for obvious security reasons.

If your issue is urgent and requires immediate assistance, please utilize our 24 hour phone support at 800-822-8965.

Thank you for contacting Dell Support."

They will do it over the phone, but not over email.

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I never imagined that finding the password would be this complicated. I grow more and more impaciant by the day. I feel an urge t o quite but i know i must go on. ( To the Revolution!! )

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Finding the password is very easy, resetting it is the hard part. If you have a CD-ROM (as I've explained twice already), you should stick it in and boot the machine with a Linux LiveCD Distro and you'll be able to change the password very easily and quickly. CHNTPW works wonders, I use it on my own machine when I forget the password.

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[quote name='tehbizz' date='Nov 3 2005, 01:32 PM']Finding the password is very easy, resetting it is the hard part.  If you have a CD-ROM (as I've explained twice already), you should stick it in and boot the machine with a Linux LiveCD Distro and you'll be able to change the password very easily and quickly.  CHNTPW works wonders, I use it on my own machine when I forget the password.
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IN ORDER TO USE ANY ROMS ON MY LAPTOP I NEED TO BE AN ADMIN. :wacko:

( [color=red]GET THE PICTURE?[/color] )

EDIT by BlackRatchet: Yes, we do. You only needed to say it once. Also, thanks for flaming in Nubie HQ. Double Warn.

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OK, I'm tired of being nice. You must not even read my replies, so I'll make sure you read this one.

[b]TO USE YOUR ROM IN [i]WINDOWS[/i] YOU NEED TO BE AN ADMIN, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN ADMIN TO INSTALL IT. INSTALLING IT MEANS SLIDING IT IN THE DRIVE BAY, NOTHING ELSE. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? I WORK AT A UNIVERSITY WHERE I DEAL WITH THESE SHITTY LAPTOPS ALL THE TIME. IF YOU INSTALL THE DRIVE AND USE A FUCKING LIVECD, LIKE YOU'VE BEEN ADVISED TO DO ABOUT 4 TIMES NOW, YOU CAN BOOT FROM THE CD AND BYPASS WINDOWS ALTOGETHER YOU TWIT. YOU'RE PHYSICALLY INSTALLING THE CD-ROM AND THAT ONLY REQUIRES YOU, THE DUMB USER, TO STICK THE DRIVE IN AND BOOT THE LAPTOP AND BOOT FROM A CD. HOW DOES THIS REQUIRE ADMIN PRIVS?????? IT DOESN'T, YOU'RE JUST STUPID. IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE REPLIES IN THIS THREAD ALONE, YOU'D REALIZE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU DO NOT.[/b]

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Nubie flaming will not be tolorated in these forums.

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[quote name='oddflux' date='Nov 3 2005, 06:31 PM']Nubie flaming will not be tolorated in these forums.
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In this case I think it's fine. Is this guy getting an Bios password promp when he tries to set the boot device and thinking it has something to do with the OS?

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[quote name='tehbizz' date='Nov 3 2005, 05:27 PM']OK, I'm tired of being nice.  You must not even read my replies, so I'll make sure you read this one.

[b]TO USE YOUR ROM IN [i]WINDOWS[/i] YOU NEED TO BE AN ADMIN, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE AN ADMIN TO INSTALL IT.  INSTALLING IT MEANS SLIDING IT IN THE DRIVE BAY, NOTHING ELSE.  HOW DO I KNOW THIS?  I WORK AT A UNIVERSITY WHERE I DEAL WITH THESE SHITTY LAPTOPS ALL THE TIME.  IF YOU INSTALL THE DRIVE AND USE A FUCKING LIVECD, LIKE YOU'VE BEEN ADVISED TO DO ABOUT 4 TIMES NOW, YOU CAN BOOT FROM THE CD AND BYPASS WINDOWS ALTOGETHER YOU TWIT.  YOU'RE PHYSICALLY INSTALLING THE CD-ROM AND THAT ONLY REQUIRES  YOU, THE DUMB USER, TO STICK THE DRIVE IN AND BOOT THE LAPTOP AND BOOT FROM A CD.  HOW DOES THIS REQUIRE ADMIN PRIVS??????  IT DOESN'T, YOU'RE JUST STUPID.  IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE REPLIES IN THIS THREAD ALONE, YOU'D REALIZE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU DO NOT.[/b]
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A-fucking-MEN

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God bless the intelligent ones, and no others. Edited by oddflux

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[quote name='Irongeek' date='Nov 3 2005, 07:37 PM'][quote name='oddflux' date='Nov 3 2005, 06:31 PM']Nubie flaming will not be tolorated in these forums.
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In this case I think it's fine. Is this guy getting an Bios password promp when he tries to set the boot device and thinking it has something to do with the OS?
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If there is a boot password, it can probably be removed by removing the battery. If it's a BIOS password, this program will probably reset it: [url="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~skynet/zips/latitude.exe"]http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~skynet/zips/latitude.exe[/url]. I cannot vouch for this personally.

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[quote name='Irongeek' date='Nov 3 2005, 06:37 PM'][quote name='oddflux' date='Nov 3 2005, 06:31 PM']Nubie flaming will not be tolorated in these forums.
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In this case I think it's fine. Is this guy getting an Bios password promp when he tries to set the boot device and thinking it has something to do with the OS?
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I couldn't even get the guy to say if he tried installing the cd drive (as tehbizz said) and ran into a bios password or not. It's a mystery. He just asks how to "be admin" over and over.

Now like everyones been telling you. put the cd rom in it's little hole on the side of the laptop, and try to boot from a cd. if it doesn't boot, you need to change the boot order in the bios, which may the password you want to change. How you may do so has been stated over and over.

That is as plain as it can be put man, hope it clears it up for you. o.O

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And here I am, getting a fucking warning for flaming this guy while this post was still in General Hacking.

This * insert most flamefully descriptive title * deserved all that I gave and a banning.

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