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I've always been fascinated with problem solving and when I don't understand something.. figuring out the solution. Then I realize hacking might be really fun.. and quite frankly I think it is after messing around with some basic source code. I was just wondering how you guys would suggest doing to get "into" hacking. Now i've never learned a program code or anythign so I was wondering what kind of stuff should I learn first... HTML code, a programming language? I mostly want to be able to start with manipulating basic web.. so if someone could refer me to a good site to learn about injection (I've been told there's javascript injection and SQL injection, correct me if I'm wrong here) I would really appreciate that as well. Glad to be here and I am ready to learn and execute.

-Wolfsrage

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Just start reading. That's THE most important thing when it comes to hacking, whether it be computers, electronics, even bikes. Hacking's not just about computers, although there is a focus on it.

To me, a hacker is anyone who likes to figure stuff out. For more in-depth analysis, I recommend you check out http://psypherx.com/articles/BeginnersMindset.txt, and I'm sure someone else is going to post the "hacker howto." I would, but the specific URL escapes me at the moment. :)

Welcome to the party!

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I'm sure someone else is going to post the "hacker howto."  I would, but the specific URL escapes me at the moment.   :)

This one? :)

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

-Dr^ZigMan

I agree with Dr^ZigMan, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html is the one I started out with, at first I found it boring, after a second look it seemed right.

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Ah thanks for the help. Before I found this site and started posting I was already working on the Basic Web Challenges on HTS and had already read this:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

I will read this however:

http://psypherx.com/articles/BeginnersMindset.txt

And I've almost finished learning HTML coding and I have a basic understanding of the javascript alert and void commands.

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Well you can't be a master of something by just making simple codes within it, things encorporated in it I.E css, javascript and so on would have to be learnt, you cannot say that writing hello world in html is enough to know HTML.

The basic web challenges in my opinon don't really teach you much.

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Mah plan would be to finish learning HTML (which is necessary IMO) and then learn to program with java. You have to know how something works to exploit it. (Correct me if I'm wrong here)

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Mah plan would be to finish learning HTML (which is necessary IMO) and then learn to program with java. You have to know how something works to exploit it. (Correct me if I'm wrong here)

Java in my view isn't advised as a first language learnt after HTML. python.org Try learning python, in order to make an exploit you must be able to write an exploit in order to write an exploit you must be able to code in the language written in most exploits i.e C, perl. Which are the two most widely used programming languages used for program writing. Personally I'm not really into Java. I never really liked it. Although there are great tools made with java.

Learn something simple. Make some code, what're you trying to exploit though? You know not how to ls in a shell yet you want an exploit, you need to learn the basics of programming, networking and language before you know the basics of the basics.

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Mah plan would be to finish learning HTML (which is necessary IMO) and then learn to program with java. You have to know how something works to exploit it. (Correct me if I'm wrong here)

Wow. Thats awesome.

You just jumped right in. Lots of people come to the site asking how to hack yahoo mail or xanga.

You come here saying "hey, I'll learn HTML and java" Then you went out and did it without hesitation. You didnt ask what to start learning before going out and learning. You did ask, but you also just started on your own. Major props to ya man.

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Since HTML is a mark up language instead of a programming language, you might have troubles grasping the basics of Java at first. If you are struggling try something like QBASIC first. Java is a good language though and very useful.

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Ok i'll check out python first.. today I'm gonna finish w3school's HTML "class" or whateve r you'd call it. I have a friend who learned java though as his first programming language.. he said it wasn't that bad. But since you suggest python first I'll check it out. :D

-Wolfsrage

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Thats probably a little advanced for someone starting out. This page is perfect for you though wolfsrage. Hetlands tutorial for non-programmers is right up your alley. Try a few of these...

http://www.python.org/doc/Intros.html

Then move on to some of these.

http://www.uselesspython.com/tutorials.php

I also suggest Learning Python (by Mark Lutz & David Ascher)

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PHP is a server-side, cross-platform, HTML embedded scripting language that lets you create dynamic web pages. PHP-enabled web pages are treated just like regular HTML pages and you can create and edit them the same way you normally create regular HTML pages.

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Correct, PHP is not a markup language.

It is possible to learn Java as a first language, I know several students who did it through a class. Python is a good choice though, and once you understand Python the step to Java should be an easy one.

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Yeah, well Java as far as I'm concerned isn't a good fist language, alot of people start with low level languages asm, shell programming, etc. Then dive into python, perl, then learn Java. Not the other way around :P

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