whixrr

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  1. I have noticed that all (or most?) toll free number prefixes, end in a repeated digit. (example)

     

    911

    800

    888

    877

    866

    etc

     

    But, 411 is an exception.

     

    Does anyone know what that is about? Or is it just for people to know if something is toll free?

     

    Anyways, Thanks for posting!

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  2. There are Millennium Payphones in my area (206 WA) If anyone has info, please reply

     

    Answers : pc-oholic

    Questions : whixrr

     

     

    Q:Can you use Millenium  payphones as DTMF decoders? (using the screen as a monitor and playing the DTMF tone into the handset mic?)

    A: Once you are in a call, they can decode TTY-text, so they should be able to also decode DTMF.

     

     

    Q:Does anyone know if the Millennium payphone's dial tone is fake? I think that they are, because every 5 seconds, a automated voice says "Please Insert Coin or Card" etc

    A: This is correct. It is fake.

     

     

    Q:This may be difficult to understand, but you will if you try it.) I am questioning that the DTMF tones that you press are not controlling the actual line. I believe that because you dial, then wait for the call, you hear the DTMF (that you dialed by hand) digits dialing faster, (by a machine) Does anyone know what this is about?

    A:That is correct, too. Between you punching in the number and the phone dialing, a lot can actually happen: For example the phone making a modem-connection to the NCC to get the rate, etc.

     

     

    Q:Also, I have found out that when you dial 0 (operator) and wait, the machine doesn't play the 0 DTMF tone, it plays a longer number to call the operator. Does anyone know what this is about?

    A:You can program the phones to do pretty much every thing you want... Besides 0, almost all N11-numbers for (except 911) are just "aliases" to local phone numbers... And sometimes, they even alias local phone numbers (think of 411 -> 555-1212 -> XXX-555-1212 to treat every "request for information"-call at the same point of contact).

     

     

    If anyone has any more info or questions, post them below.


     

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  3. On most COCOTs, there's either something that scans the coins,or something that mechanically separates them and puts them into one of three momentary switches hooked straight into the COCOT board depending on whether it's a quarter, dime or nickel. If it doesn't think it's any of the above, it goes in the coin return. You can usually tell which it is by the coin return lever; if there's a mechanical separating thingie, you should feel some force as you push down on the lever; on the units that scan the coins, it physically isn't connected to anything.

     

    The problem with a lot of the eighties text files isn't always that they're outdated, but that they're almost always a copy or a slight variation on something else, and only inventive in the sense that they put out a lot of crazy rumors. They tell you how to build a bluebox - and if you looked around, you could probably still find the parts they talk about to make that particular circuit. But the only thing they tell you to do with it is m4k3 phr33 c4wlz. What they don't tell you, for example, is that on some 5ESSes, there's occasionally ANACs reachable from a trunk to the outside world, like 503-697-0053. And that instead of MFing KP, 3, the last seven digits of your phone number and ST, it'll just get confused and drop you on the trunk without any digits dialed. They also don't tell you how to identify PBXes or end offices that use MF tones and robbed bit supervision to communicate with the outside world, or that a lot of AIS trunk groups use MF.

     

    So in a few words? Eighties text files are basically Alzheimers patients with bottles of viagra.

     

    (/rant)

     

    Anyway, though, that's kinda beside the point. There's a lot of things that're out of band now. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, either - there a *lot* of fields within SS7 that can make a call do different things or be treated differently; way more options then you'd have with MF. That's definitely something that needs to be explored in detail sometime. For most purposes though, the only sort of inband tones you'll need to worry about are DTMF.

     

    As for sources, this'll probably sound ridiculous, but Phonetrips. The HowBPhreak and 1xx/0xx tapes in particular are really good. Not because it deals with anything that's still in service of course, but just because of the mindset it gets you in of feeding unorthodox input to a switch, and noticing small details about them. A good ability to do that, in my opinion, is easily one of the best things you can have as a phreak.

     

    Then there's scanning. It's easily one of the most efficient ways of finding interesting numbers out there. Decoder wrote some good articles on the practice:

     

    http://oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/phreak/ex_scan.txt

    http://oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/phreak/espt2.txt

     

    This board is also a pretty good source if you want to browse some old threads. A lot of good discussions have happened here over the years. Lemme know if there's any specific topics you have in mind.

    Thanks so much for the sites and the info, thats just what i wanted. 

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  4. Redboxing is dead since at&t killed acts, changing the tones won't fix that.

    beiging is just clipping onto someone's line, not really high tech.

    most of what's on textfiles is useless or outdated, there's better more recent sources of info out there.

    Redboxing is just tricking the phone into thinking that you deposited coins using audio. Though, the most people think that it is just the 1700hz and 2200hz.  

     

    And remember, I did say the other IDEAS. (the idea of tricking a payphone's coin recognition, the IDEA of making a linemans handset (still works) I dont mean to sound rude, but do you know what i am saying? But anyways, thanks for the post.

    Do you know any recent sources of info? Thanks and sorry for sounding rude.

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  5. Alright, I have some questions and theories on Millenium Payphones. I am in the 206 ac (Washington,Seattle).  I have not tried any of these things on the desktop payphones as in this post. I am used to free standing payphones. (in picture)

     

     

    Can you use Millenium payphones as DTMF decoders? (using the screen as a monitor and playing the DTMF tone into the handset mic?)

     

    I have a belief that the Millennium payphone's dial tone is fake. I think this because every 5 seconds, a automated voice says "Please Insert Coin or Card" etc

     

    (This may be difficult to understand, but you will if you try it.) I also belive that the DTMF tones that you press are not controlling the actual line. I believe this because when you dial, then wait for the call, you hear the DTMF (that you dialed by hand) digits dialing faster, (by a machine) 

     

    Also, I have found out that when you dial 0 (operator) and wait, the machine doesn't play the 0 DTMF tone, it plays a longer number to call the operator. 

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  6. I love this phone line!!

    Yeah, me too, with the help of textfiles, i have got the passes for 2-3 of them, http://textfiles.com/phreak/VOICEMAIL/

    The textfiles are my main source for phreaking information, (Even though the codes/numbers are obsolete, the other ideas (beige box, redbox, etc) still work. (of course you would have to record different tones and find a payphone that doesnt mute mic and has an audible coin sound, for redbox)

     

    http://textfiles.com/phreak/

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  7. The PLA (Phone Losers of America, http://phonelosers.org/) Have been hosting a Answering Machine hacking contest where you attempt to break into answering machines and change random settings/listen to messages/set outgoing message etc. RBCP gives out the model of the answering machine's. The number is 1-206-424-8422. More info can be found at http://phonelosers.org/tni/ . Essentially, There is more than just answering machine hacking, there is also chose your own adventure, a conference line, and many more things, check it out.

    All credit goes to RBCP for this, I just wanted to show you guys.

     

    1-206-424-8422

     

    http://phonelosers.org/tni/

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  8. I remember my father had an analog answering machine in the 80's. It came with a little back box about the size of a small pack of smokes with a button. You held the button up to the phone and it would control the our home answering machine.

     

    It had different beep combinations to rewind, playback, play first messages, etc.. You;d need to consult an owner's manual for each device I think.

    Thats pretty interesting! Do you know what kind of answering machine?  If you had the black box, could you control other answering machines of the same model? Thanks for the post!

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  9. Well, I know that sometimes you may get really really lucky and come across an older analogue machine (meaning tape-based [meaning, probably, standard audio cassette for the ICM and reel-to-reel for the announcement]) that uses an SF tone for remote access. No kidding. I have an ancient (mid 1980s) Phonemate that does that. You'd carry this little box that looks kind of like a period CB radio microphone and emits a tone (around 500 Hz, I think) when you key it up. The idea being that you'd call up your number from your hotel or payphone or wherever, hold the bleeper up to the mouthpiece and throw its tone down the line when the answering machine starts to pick up.

    In theory, anyways. On paper those things worked a LOT better than they did in the field, especially with the carbon microphones that were still extremely common back then (Ah fuck it, even on a decent condenser mic, they don't work worth a shit), and offer absolutely nothing as far as security (really, I've been able to grab it just by whistling at the right frequency). Even a 3-digit DTMF sequence is more secure than those old dinosaurs. But the idea was definitely state of the art in its day.

    Thanks for the post, once you emit the sf tone (with the tone generator) what was the remote access like? Was it similar to todays? Also, thanks for the info on the 500hz tone,  I am currently programming a TRS-80 model 100 software that emits different phreaking tones, if you are interested, post here  http://www.binrev.com/forums/index.php/topic/47326-single-frequency-phreaking-tones/

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  10. (Out of curiosity) Does anyone know anything about answering machine hacking? I know a string that enters every possible two digit number.

    (12345678987654321357924686429731474193366994488552277539596372582838491817161511026203040506070809001)

    If anyone has experience, please leave a reply below.

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  11. I am going to make TRS-80 model 100 software that plays different single-tone phreaking frequencies. (2600hz,1100hz etc) If you know any more single tone frequencies, please make a new thread/reply.

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  12. I was calling my friend (locally) and I was whistling and then I heard, "Please Enter Password" I am thinking that i must have whistled the one of the DTMF frequencies for the asterisk key. (The key that asks for remote operation)  Any thoughts?

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