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#1 TheFunk

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:31 PM

Hopefully this is the right place to post this...

I've decided to take up building electric guitars as a pseudo second hobby. I don't know much about the topic, but I have most of the tools and materials I feel that I'm going to need, and I definitely plan on studying up. I'm aware of the task before me, at the very least. Being a hacker, I have a predisposition for wanting to do things a little bit outside of the box. Seeing as they're mostly for experiment, and I don't expect them to turn out that well, does anyone have any suggestions for something cool I could build into my first few guitars? I'm trying to avoid massive amounts of wiring, but hey if the idea is worth it, I'm game. Heck, if I could find a good use for a Raspberry Pi, I'd throw one of those in there, just so I could say, "This guitar runs Linux."

The main idea is to just do something interesting once all the tedious woodwork is done. I was considering gutting a distortion pedal, or octaver and finding a nice way to build it into the guitar. Let me know what you guys think.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

You can give building your own pickups a go...I've helped a friend source parts for hummbuckers before, that's about the limit of my experience in building parts for the actual guitar. I do build tube amps for fun tho (used to make a good bit of spending money from it), so feel free to ask about tube stuff! I have lots of spare components too.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:19 AM

i suppose i would remind the issue of wood/construction quality  to wards, neck thru/multi lamination ect. instead of just doing the old gibson  wood glue and a clamp, as per wiring you could do like the older, and now recently reintroduced b.c.rich what with the, coild tapping for each pickup, a phaseswitch,  a rotary switch with tone filters which is probably just different caps.. then the problem is your guitar basically has an instrument panel on it, dont know if i would care for a distortion pedal. but something like an lpb1, where its just a straighforward volumeboost/gainstage. could always make it active and just build an op amp and get some simple eq or something if desired.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

ofcourse just recommendations/starting points/ stuff you could look at, but i probbaly wouldnt put in a distortion/the od pedals that are labeled as od when they are really a distortion pedal like tube screamer/big muff ect as those have internal clipping/distortion, where a lpb1/alot of other clean/power boosters just increase the volume as thats od, you just push the amp to clip harder, or distortion pedal or whatever its plugged into, octavers/eq, chorous flange revreb delays, ect would all be nice/ would work fine but youd have to figure out how to make everything layout without being too complicated, so the simpler pedals/effects would be easier to work with,

edits: would probably not recommend using anything you dont think you are going to use the majority of the time as if it was something you wanted to cycle on and off would probably be easier with a pedal than having to stop using one of your hands


Edited by dinscurge, 11 February 2013 - 12:20 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

In the end, I think I might end up gutting an octaver, and installing it with a push pull. I can leave all the controls intact, they'll just be inside the body, and the effect can be powered by a 9V battery, also inside the body. The only problem I can foresee is the battery dieing, but hey, one step at a time right?

I'd love to know how to make a tube amp by the way glitch, that sounds ridiculously cool.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

I did an internal preamp for a friend more than 20 years ago. I got the schematic from Guitar Player magazine. It looks like you can get something similar today. Google Tonekicker and see if this might be something you are interested in.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

I'd love to know how to make a tube amp by the way glitch, that sounds ridiculously cool.


They're pretty neat, and not nearly as complicated as the audiophile world wants you to believe (there's also no magic mojo tubes, resistors or cables...not a popular fact, but it stands nonetheless). I really enjoy building small, lower-powered tube amps from old TV tubes as you can usually get away with a single tube and they're super-cheap for good quality (less than $5 for the tube usually).



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

with active pickups they usually just leave the 9v loose lol, in the cavity where all the pots are and the plastic back plate you can remove to replace the battery/if rewiring w.e. nothing saying you cant just put longer wires and put the pot's and stuff on the guitar just prolly dont want big pedals with like 6 pots, or a 10band eq with a volume and gain ect just makes not look so good, and alot of stuff crammed in the cavity/ have to make a very large cavity



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

Just make sure everything goes to "11".

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 07:48 PM

you ever do this?  (thefunk)

    as far as wiring its usually pretty simple ive been considering drawing up some schematics but decided was easy enough people can figure it out themselves to do like the b.c.rich where it has coil tapping/phase a rotary for different caps for tone knob, but instead of doing the normal coil tapping do a rotary switch would need multi deck so could do like every configuration of coil from a pair of humbuckers while still retaining the use of the original selection switch, so like coil 1 from bridge coil 1 from neck, 1 from bridge 2 from neck, 2 from bridge 1 from neck, 2 from bridge 2 from neck, both from bridge and neck, probably set it up like both humbuckers, than the alternate humbuckers combining the opposing coils from the 2 pickups, and then the 2 single coil configurations after that, by setting the collector/whatever its called common pin from the rotary to the selection switch. then you could always do stuff with parallel/series out of phase and with passive tone controls so it can get as complicated as you want.

    but i guess the advice would probably be that the fretboard/neck seems the hardest to make since all the frets have to be precise so buying a precut fretboard or just making a body and putting on a bolt on neck would be a way to get into doing the wiring/and stuff without having to do all the math for scale/frets

 

edit: if your feeling adventurous i mostly finished up a project where i made a body and put a neck i just had around from parting out a v, to make a guitar that sounds like shamisen which is the japanese banjo thats entirelly sealed and has a very mellow tone, from previous experience of making a guitar shaped clock in middle school which i later turned into a instrument was pine, the reason people dont use pine is it has a terrible mellow tone atleast when it relates to guitars and tone wood, but in much more limited quantities  like just a 1by thick piece on the back or something you could probably get that weird mellow/cocked wah sort of sound that albert king had with his v. and from the tunings ive been using on the shamisen thing.. might workout alright for a bass like pine body then a maple neck or somethin or if it was like half of the body, its got a really boomy bottom end with weird really mellow mids for guitar. but relating to your projects, if you were to do sort of a combo neckthru/set neck would be like normal neck/side body peices put on and a back out of another material sort of mix and match instead of just one material


Edited by dinscurge, 02 January 2015 - 08:08 PM.





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