How did you learn?
Posted 04 December 2007 - 11:23 PM
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:16 PM
i will always be learning.
Agreed everyone will.
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 11:20 PM
As a hacker, a true hacker, you never stop learning.
Posted 07 December 2007 - 01:38 PM
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 07:11 PM
And like many others, started off as being WAY to curious as to what that noisy-ass thing could do, other than play games and type papers. Started off with a gorgeous Headstart Explorer that we got from my aunt & uncle in Florida, cuz they had it and didn't want it cuz they already had a computer. It already had the 20MB AUTOMAGIC hard disk and the 256K RAM Pac installed. The box is actually sitting outside my bedroom door with the computer in it!!! (just for kicks, it's model # was the EX-938-CP...google it and see what comes up) I loaded up on commands and BASIC and such, and then the Headstart got boring, and I soon found the old Commodore that was sitting in the closet.
Commodore 64 was not working, and I wanted something new, and my neighbor had a Windows 3.1 system, and of course I was like trippin' over this sophisticated, advanced GUI...I was in awe. Although the system architecture of Windows 3.1 was really quite similar to the commands I had learned with DOS on the Explorer, it was fun. In school, I could be found daily in the computer lab on the unprotected Windows 95 machines just cracking away...
Then, we bought our own, very first *true* computer - a Compaq Presario 7470 with an AMD K6II, @ 533MHz with 128MB of RAM; came with Windows 98. That thing was the freaking bomb. It could play all the cool new games and stuff, and it could connect to the INTERNET via a 56k DIAL-UP MODEM!!! I was like zomg! 1337!!! Although mom and dad had become somewhat wise to my *practices* and didn't like to let me play on the computer w/o asking. The Compaq was upgraded to Windows ME *GAG* and then eventually to a new HDD and a backup HDD and running XP, and it now sits in the storage room, slave to our new HP Pavilion a1710n (not that great either...) So I kinda fell out of practice...
But very quickly over the years, I acquired another old Windows 3.1 from my Grandpa who bought it at a garage sale for $50 in hopes of being able to start emailing like we all do, but that was kind of an epic fail... Then I got a Nobilis Windows 2000 pc from my computer teacher at my high school cuz they had just gotten a bunch of new Dell P4s and some new Nobilis machines, and soon 3 more to come, and that launched me back in as i began hardware hacking and building/rebuilding systems, password and network hacking, etc...
But, agreed with everyone else, the REAL 31337 h4x0r never stops learning, and the fact that we enjoy helping n00bs work their way into our world.
Posted 14 March 2008 - 10:37 AM
Posted 15 March 2008 - 04:29 PM
I started in electronics which in the late 80's was a sure fire way to end up in computers. One day I read that a deleted file is simply marked as 'free' on the hard drive and that really fired my curiosity. So I went into the office and pressed my very first computer key. Within a couple of weeks I bought my first computer.
Soon after that the sys-admin made some changes to the autoexec.bat file so that a restrictive program would automatically start on boot up. Really old school shit but by this point I already knew about the startup files and how to manipulate them. I opened the "authorized" word processor, edited the files and rebooted. After doing what I wanted I changed the files back and rebooted again. All I could think about while doing this was "Why would anyone ruin a perfectly good computer by putting this crap software on here?" It *never* even entered my mind that this might be considered illegal.
About a year later I found an article that caught my eye with the funny title of "Are you a Hacker?" I'd never heard the term so imagine my surprise when I read it and found out I was one!
The moral of the story is that I did what I thought was fun all while exploring and learning about the things I found interesting. Nobody could have taught me that and nobody told me that I couldn't do that. Though I never went to school for computers I'm now the system administrator.
Finally, I *like* finding local hackers on my network. They are the only ones I find interesting enough to talk to. And the more they know the more fun I have.
Posted 30 March 2008 - 06:50 PM
Hit me up on AIM at chessgreyking2 or email me at Chessgreyking@yahoo.com if you need help with anything too n00bish. We've all been there before.
EDIT: I actually forgot to answer the question. I am completely self taught, with zero assistance from other people that I personally know.
Edited by Grey King, 30 March 2008 - 06:52 PM.
Posted 30 March 2008 - 10:42 PM
Does anybody know any good sources to learn C++? I had an ebook once but I lost it after my drive failed.
Edited by djc4life, 31 March 2008 - 11:38 AM.
Posted 31 March 2008 - 04:52 AM
Then I realized that hacking the human mind comes naturally to me, so now I am in constant training to improve my social engineering skills.
Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:46 PM
I'm still learning new things every day, to this day.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 03:37 AM
Once I figured out how programs were written and how languages worked I figured out that it's actually the exact same in hacking - in stead of writing your program, you're simply abusing a programmer's failure to use proper error handling in his/her functions and/or subprocedures. If you can write a program, you can most certainly tear one apart.
As far as abusing improper error handling, I learned most of that through trial and error. With shellcoding I started out with an article (win32-shellcode.pdf, attatched) and then after experimenting until I understood the code I began to write my own. Once I got a job as a sec-tech/malware analyst I tore apart a worm and learned out-of-order code execution. Once I learned that I combined that with my knowledge of polymorphism from xort's article on polymorphic shellcoding (available at milw0rm I think 135.pdf? not sure). All in all it was an experience in learning to program as well as trial and error; when I ran into systems I didn't (and sometimes when I run into systems that I still DONT understand) I generally refer to the manual for the language being abused (assembly/opcode manuals for the processor, man files for bash [rarely], and of course SQL manuals because of how many SQL variants there are out there). When in doubt about the protocol or when blind fuzzing proprietary software I generally hit the RFC's. Other than that, there's not much to say. Hope this helps some of the noobs/newbies out there.
Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:21 PM
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