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[Theros]

Yeah, the question is that simple and maybe I am a n00b for asking it but what the hell.
I know x86 assembly, I know C, I know Python, HTML and some Java. I know how the internet works, I can set up my own LAN, or Intranet but even then I am still called a n00b by some of my friends; it just bugs me, when are you not a n00b? In all honesty, when are you not a n00b? I am not asking for a check sheet or anything, I don't want some lame ass link that will test my computer knowledge, I just want to know... is there a way to officially say that you are not a n00b?

I mean, it just escapes me.

Like this section of the forums, Nubie HQ just seems a tad degrading to me... I mean I know I don't know everything in fact I would say that I could often times be invalidated in allot of my arguments. But am I a n00b?

Has anybody else had this problem?

Maybe I am just getting mixed up on some semantical thing...

*This question has irked me for months now, I just need to ask.*

[McGrewSecurity]

I don't know you, but judging from the couple of posts you've made, and assuming you know the stuff you say you know, you don't strike me as a "n00b", and it's not likely that any questions you came up with would have to go in "Nubie HQ", if they fit into "General Hacking" or any of the other subforums.

Edit, just to add a bit: Personally, I label people. Not necessarily "n00b", or "elite", or whatever, but I assess and form a opinion of people based on their actions and words very quickly. I don't generally share those labels. So, I don't believe I can give you a definition of what a "n00b" is, but given a person and a situation, I might internally classify them as one.

Edited by McGrewSecurity, 15 October 2007 - 05:50 PM.

[MaRo]

I suppose you aren't a n00b anymore when you get paid for your 1337ness.

[Theros]

I don't know you, but judging from the couple of posts you've made, and assuming you know the stuff you say you know, you don't strike me as a "n00b", and it's not likely that any questions you came up with would have to go in "Nubie HQ", if they fit into "General Hacking" or any of the other subforums.

Edit, just to add a bit: Personally, I label people. Not necessarily "n00b", or "elite", or whatever, but I assess and form a opinion of people based on their actions and words very quickly. I don't generally share those labels. So, I don't believe I can give you a definition of what a "n00b" is, but given a person and a situation, I might internally classify them as one.

I know what you mean about the internally labeling thing, I do that sometimes and to some extent I think that everybody does.

I don't know though, I mean... damn it's such a hard thing to describe; syntax, language, semantics and all that good stuff that can get in the way of the actual point of the conversation but at other times really help the conversation along. It's mind blowing how hard certain things seem when we express them on forums and such. For instance, the way I articulate certain things may totally baffle some people or they misinterpret them and call me a n00b; so I end up thinking that because they probably do know more than me, that I must be a n00b.... Even though what I said was right as well. I mean for God's sake, how can we express something that will be universally understood? A rather deep question perhaps, but a relevant one on the Internet where language is the only thing we have to go on. Without non-verbal communication it can be extremely hard to articulate certain things, I guess that's why we have Emoticons and such but even then it still does not fill that void (for me at least).

I love forums, and I love online communities. Yet it still... I am back to where I started, I need help expressing this.
Any suggestions?

*Yes I do realize that I have gotten slightly off topic*

[Zeph]

I define a n00b as a script-kiddie, there is no set time when you cross the n00b boundry.
(unless you get 1000 binrev post , even then, I'm still a n00b)

[isolationx]

In reality it doesn't even matter. We all know something, but generally lack knowledge in other areas. If someone is going to call you a noob because of some reason or another, it's not like it hurts you. Just reply with a "thanks". People only say such to get a rise out of you, if they fail, they'll quit.

[Theros]

true

[LUCKY_FUCKIN_CHARMS]

i suppose you can always be a noob at some things. you might be leet in one area and know nada in another, i guess thats the whole point of forums like this is to exchange info and ideas n shit.

[infus3]

i suppose you can always be a noob at some things. you might be leet in one area and know nada in another, i guess thats the whole point of forums like this is to exchange info and ideas n shit.

I'd agree. I pretty much define myself as a noob in all areas, but there are some that I know more in. Its all relative to what you're discussing and to whom you are discussing it with. I don't like being called a noob when it refers to skiddies or the like.

[PurpleJesus]

true

From what you say you know.. you're not a noob...

By the sheer size of the universe and how small our brains are, it's impossible to know everything.. so be happy. And like isolationX said, those calling you a noob are probably doing it just to get a rise out of you.

[C'thulhu]

Makes me wonder what makes your friends think that they are so .....not noobs?...It seems that when I go to work I can sometimes fix Hardware/Software problems that confuse the heck out of other people but for some of the basic things I have to hit google pretty hard..
It also seems to me that one these boards some people will try to ask very advanced questions but not know enough to clearly ask or even understand what it is he (or she) is asking...they come off as being a noob.
Some people will ask the simplest questions but will be clearly understood...they come off as being intelligent and less "noobish"
Sometimes a simple question will be posted and people will jump to answer without fully understanding the question...and that comes off as noobish....

[BSDfan]

Unfortunately, as a species.. we're not very impressive...

Everyone is a "n00b", I for instance know shit about cars.. they are entirely boring...

I also know very little about... cooking...

Does this make me a n00b? you bet your ass it does!

[Theros]

Thanks guys, I mean it really helped me... I just get down on myself sometimes (*sigh*).

Interesting topic now that I think about it though... I mean the whole language thing.