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#1 Zach Nelson

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:03 PM

I have a simple idea, I want to make a program for the nintendo ds that has a port scanner, a password cracker, and an OS Fingerprint. It's basically a mobile Pentester.

Is this possible/plauseable? Is there anything I forgot?

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:13 PM

I wouldn't not call myself an expert on this subject but possibly if you check out ds linux, you might be able to port some command line tools over to it. I do not know if some of your wifi tools will work, or if anything will work actually, but its a place to start looking.

http://www.dslinux.org/
http://www.dslinux.org/wiki/Main_Page

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 02:27 PM

It is a simple idea, but it would be rather hard to program even if you had a strong grasp of C.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 02:40 PM

It is a simple idea, but it would be rather hard to program even if you had a strong grasp of C.


It would be hard to (re)program nmap, but a simple port scanner/passwd cracker, not as much. But in all fairness, if a toolchain is available for DSLinux, porting nmap might be a far more interesting project IMO.

P.S. Yes, OS fingerprinting is for the hardcore

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 02:57 PM

whoa. DS linux sounds cool. I almost want one just for that. and i thought the wifi on the ds had a range of 30 feet maximum.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 03:41 PM

@inaequitas-I Wouldn't really re-program anything, just program.

and @The_STDstroyer-I'm sure there's an extender or somethin'.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:14 PM

DS WiFi is like normal wifi when used with an access point. You have to remember the DS isn't a very powerful thing to work with. There is no way a password cracker would work.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:19 PM

whoa. DS linux sounds cool. I almost want one just for that. and i thought the wifi on the ds had a range of 30 feet maximum.



Not quite.

I went wardriving with my DS (yes, really) and just drove down the main roads. I picked up like, 300 points. I knew where one point was, at a gas station. Well, it showed up while I was near the Targ3t across the street.

I would say a good 500 feet, depending on how good the router you are picking up is.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:25 PM

It's worth remembering wardriving is different than connecting because the beacon from the AP might be stronger than your card's signal, i.e. there's no way you could maintain a connection to that AP but you can still see it.

But cracking, yes, I completely overlooked the specs. It might be more useful as a packet capture device and then you do the cracking offline someplace.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:53 PM

So you mean like a packet sniffer?
(Sorry, but i'm semi-new to this and that's really all I could find on google)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:08 PM

So you mean like a packet sniffer?
(Sorry, but i'm semi-new to this and that's really all I could find on google)

yeah basically. and does anyone know the full system specs for the ds?

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:12 PM

I did at once, but off the top of my head it's got two processors, an arm7 and an arm9.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:35 PM

and does anyone know the full system specs for the ds?


http://www.nintendo.com/techspecds

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 07:16 PM

wow. the ds looks alot less powerful than it actually is.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 08:39 PM

It's worth remembering wardriving is different than connecting because the beacon from the AP might be stronger than your card's signal, i.e. there's no way you could maintain a connection to that AP but you can still see it.

But cracking, yes, I completely overlooked the specs. It might be more useful as a packet capture device and then you do the cracking offline someplace.



At a point in the video, Fox test's it.

For a stupid reason, but the point get's across.

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 12:16 AM

It's worth remembering wardriving is different than connecting because the beacon from the AP might be stronger than your card's signal, i.e. there's no way you could maintain a connection to that AP but you can still see it.

But cracking, yes, I completely overlooked the specs. It might be more useful as a packet capture device and then you do the cracking offline someplace.



At a point in the video, Fox test's it.

For a stupid reason, but the point get's across.


Well, yes, I did not however refute any claims regarding length of communication, merely acknowledging a technical aspect of wifi. Since I don't own a DS nor extensively played with one, I would have been in no position to comment on its merits :P

But for all points and purposes, it did seem to be able to communicate at increased ranges. As usual, the OEM doesn't want to over-advertise for fear of returns and whatnot.




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