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#1 Dr. Z2A

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 07:27 PM

ok so for a while i will have my external hd connected to my parent's comp (cause they took away my comp FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but yeah I don't my family going through my mad stash of pr0n (*wishing i had huge stash of pr0n still*). So I don't want them to be able to look at my stuff (be it pr0n or not). Is there anyway to password protect an external hd or something to make it so only I can access it?

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 07:43 PM

why don't you just unplug it when you are not using it?

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 08:48 PM

why don't you just unplug it when you are not using it?

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because its pretty easy to plug it back in :P And I would feel better about it if I had a more reliable way than just unplugging it.

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 09:11 PM

A password screams that you are hiding something. Get creative. If you change a folder picture you would be amazed what you can hide right in front of someone.

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 09:16 PM

A password screams that you are hiding something.  Get creative.  If you change a folder picture you would be amazed what you can hide right in front of someone.

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Well im not really hiding something so I have nothing to worry about (i was joking about the pr0n, maybe i risk my rap videos being deleted but i can live with that), i just don't want someone going through my hd. And it would be pretty cool to have it with a password.

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Posted 28 October 2005 - 10:26 PM

Since your parents probably don't use linux, just format it with ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc. If you want to access it from a window computer, just partition it into a linux side and a windows side, then just keep the pr0n on the linux partition. Also, you could use Cryptoloop or dm-crypt.

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Posted 30 October 2005 - 01:24 PM

Since your parents probably don't use linux, just format it with ext2, ext3, reiserfs, etc. If you want to access it from a window computer, just partition it into a linux side and a windows side, then just keep the pr0n on the linux partition. Also, you could use Cryptoloop or dm-crypt.

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Yep, and there's some good reiserfs drivers out there too, that'll allow you to mount the reiserfs partition in Windows when you wish:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/rfsd

Alternatively, hide the files through a barrage of folders:
ie. /2/6/c/2/pr0n

Edited by Seal, 30 October 2005 - 01:29 PM.


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Posted 31 October 2005 - 12:43 PM

Search for a program called Cryptainer. We used to use it in military school, mostly for hiding music and pr0n. It creates a virtual encrypted drive that won't mount unless you have the password for it.

If you're talking long-term storage, compress the files with 7zip and set a password on the archive.

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 11:17 AM

Alternatively, hide the files through a barrage of folders:
ie. /2/6/c/2/pr0n

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Edit...

you have to be in folder view in explorer.

I used to think that way until I found that if you place your cursor at the top folder and highlight the root folder then press the "Num Lock" and "*" key (at the same time) in your number keypad you will see your processor hang until all the directories have been expanded. :D

http://support.micro...122120121120120

An alternative from the command line would be...

tree /F /A c:\ > "c:\tree.txt"

you get a txt file of your entire c:\ drive in a tree view.

Edited by fileit, 06 November 2005 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2005 - 01:19 PM

ok so for a while i will have my external hd connected to my parent's comp (cause they took away my comp FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but yeah I don't my family going through my mad stash of pr0n (*wishing i had huge stash of pr0n still*).  So I don't want them to be able to look at my stuff (be it pr0n or not).  Is there anyway to password protect an external hd or something to make it so only I can access it?

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If it's NTFS, you could use EFS. If you do so, it's prudent to enable syskey.

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 09:04 PM

systems_glitch, i have cryptainer, but i believe you have to pay for a shareware version inorder to encrypt data/virtual disk higher than 20MB, (i use it to put all my sensitive data in my usb key, its a good prog),

I would probably change the extensions...that allways seems to work w/ 'non-computer-literate' people.....

ie: 1. Original file 'Paris hilton porn.mpg' becomes ===> '00029302.txt' or 'Adobe Photoshop.exe' (i would be suspicious if the txt file is like 300mb lol)

hiding files within a load of folders is not worth it, its just plain annoying and unsecure (/3/4/5/6/7/paris hilton porn.mp, they'll still find it after going thru the folders)

Or . What I do: I have PGP Desktop, which is awesome for encrypted LARGE Size Data, and its virtually imposible to get into (espeically family members) but the only bad thing is, which in my opinion is pretty bad ....when you plugin the hdd and u dont have the password you have access to 'format' the entire disk..completely! that sucks...

if you dont have money to buy/software etc...just change extensions and change filenames to random names.....also get a Maxtor Drive Lock hdd..those are sweet built in password protection..

hope that helps...

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GOt a greeeat solution for ya...Get a Program called CRYPTCD (i have the forensics version) Its a awesome program for this.....google it..and pm me if u need mo info..

Edited by R3c0n, 08 November 2005 - 09:01 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2005 - 11:43 AM

Yes, Cryptainer is shareware with limitations, but you can create multiple volumes. Pr0n of Type X is drive X and pr0n of Type Y is drive Y!

If you're running an NT-based system (NT 4, 2000, XP) you could repartition the drive with NTFS and set the mountpoint as a folder in an odd location.

I used to use a batch file with a bunch of SUBST commands to mount recursively hidden folders as a drive. SUBST lets you assign a drive letter to a folder (sort of like doing a -loop mount with a CD ISO) so C:\WINNT\System32\CatRoot\pr0n => X:

Edited by systems_glitch, 07 November 2005 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2005 - 02:54 PM

1) With some version og PGP,you can encrypt a drive
2) put your p0rn on a CD along with eveything else you don't want them to see
3) make a 2-10Gb partion in Ext-2 (the linux format sorry i can't remeber the name) and put all you stuff on that. so when you parents boot up in windows they only see whats on the NTSC or FAT(16) formated part. then you can drop in a live distro and get to you linux formated partition.

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 04:12 PM

4) (W)EFS- (Windows) Encrypted File System you can assign password to files/folders

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:21 PM

Sorry to bump this, but I was wondering how you'd go about setting a password on a file/folder. I know you've gotta be careful about this, but I think it'd be handy to know, you know?

Also, they password protect folders on the computers in school so that you can't view (some) of them over the network, you have to be on the comuter where they're stored. What's the deal with this?

Oh, and while I'm on, what does that radioactive symbol below my name there mean?

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:36 PM

Sorry to bump this, but I was wondering how you'd go about setting a password on a file/folder. I  know you've gotta be careful about this, but I think it'd be handy to know, you know?

Also, they password protect folders on the computers in school so that you can't view (some) of them over the network, you have to be on the comuter where they're stored. What's the deal with this?

Oh, and while I'm on, what does that radioactive symbol below my name there mean?

Thanks!!!

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1.These solutions have already been discussed
2.This is so they are protected from students like you!
3.That is your rank image

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 04:11 AM

I don't remeber quite good now, but there was the case with Sony BMG software, that installed itself without your knowledge, when you were listening to the music from their CD's. The software manifulated some registry keys, and by doing it made files, and folder beginning with char invisible from the file explorer. Just look through the Reg and find that option, set the char to, let's say "@" and name your folder "@secretfolder" (maybe you'll have to add "@" at the end, I don't remeber), and poof! it's gone.

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 04:42 AM

Sorry to bump this, but I was wondering how you'd go about setting a password on a file/folder. I  know you've gotta be careful about this, but I think it'd be handy to know, you know?

Also, they password protect folders on the computers in school so that you can't view (some) of them over the network, you have to be on the comuter where they're stored. What's the deal with this?

Oh, and while I'm on, what does that radioactive symbol below my name there mean?

Thanks!!!

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1.These solutions have already been discussed
2.This is so they are protected from students like you!
3.That is your rank image

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@Greyfox, be nice dude :| ...err

@Istrancis: As far as I know , one of the common ways to protect folders on windows is via software, (theres tons of it, google it), and the reason you are not able to access folders on your network is because of read/write access the admin has setup for that specific server/folder, and since your account is a guest/student account you dont have much priviledges..

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 03:32 PM

I don't remeber quite good now, but there was the case with Sony BMG software, that installed itself without your knowledge, when you were listening to the music from their CD's. The software manifulated some registry keys, and by doing it made files, and folder beginning with char invisible from the file explorer. Just look through the Reg and find that option, set the char to, let's say "@" and name your folder "@secretfolder" (maybe you'll have to add "@" at the end, I don't remeber), and poof! it's gone.

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That was the rootkit. And it required $ before the name, inside of the windows folder.

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Posted 03 March 2006 - 05:42 PM

Sorry, I was not trying to be mean.




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