185 replies to this topic

[batman24]

password hash insertion (changeing / removing the password on site) as it is know is a great way to get past the password quickly. however, If the you have and files that are secured using (W)EFS (windows Encrypted file system). anyhwo, if you look around there is insertion app that will fit on a floppy disc so i would give that a look.

[Mr.Sandman]

How do i do that?

Edited by Mr.Sandman, 28 October 2005 - 11:56 AM.

[mikes]

Winternal's Locksmith is good, if you can get ahold of it.

[Mr.Sandman]

I have to pay for that.

Winternal's Locksmith is good, if you can get ahold of it.

[Minion]

Do not post three fucking posts in immediate succession. One will do, unless you like the title "just a fucking post whore idiot".

This topic should be moved to nubie hq.

[mausa]

appearently he cannot boot from a usb drive, because it is set to boot from the harddrive. But I am pretty sure that the bios is password protected as well and he cannot access it.

And to answer your question: in order to boot from a usb drive you need to have a usb drive. put some files on it. plug it in and start up your computer.

I have never actaully done this before, since I am only running old computers.

[gnik]

Can you boot into safe mode? if so cant u creat a admin account and then get the password from the sam file?

[Mr.Sandman]

I dont know ill try.

[EvilAerosolCan]

You can change the boot order in BIOS, attach a usb cdrom or floppy and then boot to that. That way has nothing to do with windows.

I REPEAT IN ORDER TO USE A CD AND/OR FLOPPY DIVE I NEED TO KNOW THE ADMIN PASSWORD. ( If i knew it would not be asking how to get it. DUH)

[Rightcoast]

While I am sure the school wouldn't like this....I doubt it's any worse than resetting the admin password which is what you are trying to do anyway.

What am I missing here? You say you can't boot to a CD ROM because of a BIOS password, that so far, I think your assuming is there. First make sure it isn't a default BIOS password. If it isn't go to the store and buy a size 0 or 1 phillips head, take the laptop apart, and clear CMOS.

This is really simple, I think it just seems tough to you. You'll see the battery or jumpers somewhere in there. I've heard some laptops use the regular battery, but haven't seen that myself. You can try removing that too, with the power cord unplugged.

[Mr.Sandman]

Thanks for the info but im trying to avoid laptop surgery.

[Rightcoast]

but I believe in a different thread he said, that the school has removed the cd rom drives and he cannot boot from a usb drive. So: no easy boobies for him.

Exactly! So why the hell you guys keep giving me advise on things that need to be copyed on a disk and/or floppy.

P.S im not trying to look at boobie and/or dickies. I dont need the admins code to do that. (Thats what Google Images are for duh!)

OK. It really isn't a sure fix anyway. I have no idea if your laptop stores it on EEPROM or what not. It could be worth a try to see though. It isn't surgery, it's possibly as simple as remove a dozen screws, do paperclip trick, insert a dozen screws.

If your that shy about it though, this should help you.
http://www.techspot....-pg1.html&pp=20

Yes, it's very long. Read it.

This seems to be the file they are talking about.
http://www.bios-driv...rs/61/61224.htm

Good Luck

Edit: Odd...I am pretty sure I quoted the single line post above by Mr. Sandman. Not the one that showed up.

Edited by Evolve, 31 October 2005 - 04:06 PM.

[tehbizz]

After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account. You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS. Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.

[Mr.Sandman]

After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account.  You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS.  Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.

Didnt your mother ever tell you "If you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all."

[Mr.Sandman]

but I believe in a different thread he said, that the school has removed the cd rom drives and he cannot boot from a usb drive. So: no easy boobies for him.

Exactly! So why the hell you guys keep giving me advise on things that need to be copyed on a disk and/or floppy.

P.S im not trying to look at boobie and/or dickies. I dont need the admins code to do that. (Thats what Google Images are for duh!)

OK. It really isn't a sure fix anyway. I have no idea if your laptop stores it on EEPROM or what not. It could be worth a try to see though. It isn't surgery, it's possibly as simple as remove a dozen screws, do paperclip trick, insert a dozen screws.

If your that shy about it though, this should help you.
http://www.techspot....-pg1.html&pp=20

Yes, it's very long. Read it.

This seems to be the file they are talking about.
http://www.bios-driv...rs/61/61224.htm

Good Luck

Edit: Odd...I am pretty sure I quoted the single line post above by Mr. Sandman. Not the one that showed up.

Im using an Inspipon l 4100 model laptop. There talking about another model. Think it will still work?

Edited by Mr.Sandman, 01 November 2005 - 09:47 AM.

[rekenaar]

It should work, but if you are worried, go download the manuals from Dell. They should tell you how to do it.

[Rightcoast]

No rekenaar, Dell won't help with this at all. Their manuals won't tell and neither would customer support (laptop theft issues).

Will it work? I don't know. It might, it might not. Try and let us know. This is a hacking forum after all. No one ever accomplished anything wondering about it.

[tehbizz]

After reading this, I figure you're just wanting to fuck up the laptop with spyware which is WHY there are so many restrictions on your own account.  You should really take that as a hint as to why you're not an admin of the laptop.

As far as BOOTING from a cd/floppy/usb drive goes, you don't NEED admin rights to do that, you just need to know to press F2 to access the Dell BIOS.  Frankly, I'm sure your school would love to know that you want to break your school provided laptop (which is legally their property) just so you can install programs and surf porn.

If the password recently changed via "wireless access" (it's called Active Directory), then don't be amazed if it changes again and will continue to do so, breaking it this time won't do a whole lot of good once the admin(s) change it again.

Didnt your mother ever tell you "If you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all."

My reply is actually full of good information. How do I know this? I help admin a large network using AD so I know what I'm talking about. Yes, my mother told me that but she also told me "Never look a gift horse in the mouth."

[rekenaar]

Guess I was wrong. I was able to find out how to reset the a Dimension desktop BIOS password, but could not find anything on the Inspiron. When I contacted Dell about this, here is the response...

"Thank you for contacting Dell Support.

Each portable system has a unique master password. If you have forgotten the password to your system, you must contact our Mobile Computing Hotline at 800-822-8965 for Corporate/Government Accounts or at 800-247-9252 for Direct accounts. You will be connected to a Portable Computer Technical Specialist who, after verifying that you are the registered owner of the system, can look up the master password for you. We cannot distribute those over e-mail, for obvious security reasons.

If your issue is urgent and requires immediate assistance, please utilize our 24 hour phone support at 800-822-8965.

Thank you for contacting Dell Support."

They will do it over the phone, but not over email.

[Mr.Sandman]

I never imagined that finding the password would be this complicated. I grow more and more impaciant by the day. I feel an urge t o quite but i know i must go on. ( To the Revolution!! )